Compensatory picks - Jets 0 Patriots 4

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  1. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Happens every year.

    We get zero compensatory picks while the Patriots get four of them including a whopping two third rounders.

    We traded away the sixth overall draft pick (Williams was touted as the best player in that draft) and only got one third round pick.

    Is it ant wonder those guys win the division every year.
     
  2. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    Compensatory free agents are determined by a formula based on salary, playing time and postseason honors. The formula was developed by the NFL Management Council. Not every free agent lost or signed by a club is covered by this formula.

    Yeah, sounds legit :rolleyes:
     
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  3. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    I hope JD learned from the Ravens how to play the compensatory game. They signed Ingram and Earl Thomas and still got a 3rd. They clearly know how to play the game.
     
  4. stinkyB

    stinkyB 2009 Best Avatar Award Winner

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    You're not going to get ADDITIONAL compensation from the NFL......
     
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  5. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    We signed two of the top free agents at their given positions. The Patriots lost Trey Flowers and Trent Brown to big contracts. They also lost Malcom Brown, Adrian Clayborn, Ryan Allen and Cordarelle Patterson. They only added Jamie Collins and Terrance Brooks.

    They play the compensatory game right. I don't really see a huge inequity in the distribution of picks between them and us. They just do it better than us.
     
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  6. Section 336

    Section 336 Well-Known Member

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    In order to get Comp picks you actually have to have good players on your team leave.
    Hence the Pats year after year have good players while year after year the Jets do not for several reasons.
     
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  7. GWjet

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    It’s definitely a flawed system. It was designed to compensate teams who can’t afford to resign their own FAs. The Pats don’t even try to resign their own. Never making an offer to them and still get 3rd round pick. That’s not the spirit of the rule. You should have to make some kind of qualifying offer

    Just another example of Belichick bending the rules

    By the way, when will the NFL announce their findings on the Pats illegality filming another teams side lines AGAIN !
     
  8. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    What?? Why? The Patriots can afford to pay their free agents. All teams can. The only true notoriously cheap teams are the Bengals and Chargers.

    The league is built on a salary cap and revenue sharing. The Patriots have a system that has worked so well that they just draft replacements in a plug and play without much of a drop off.

    The system isn't flawed. Teams that choose to not use it to their advantage are the ones that are routinely bottom feeders. That's not the systems fault.
     
  9. ukjetsfan

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    I've never really understood the system anyway. It just seems weird to give some sort of consolation prize to teams that choose to let free agents walk. If compensatory picks are going to be handed out, how about extra picks for the teams that finish bottom of their divisions? Or the teams that have lowest attendance? Or the teams that have the crappiest uniforms?
     
  10. coloradojet

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    If they gave compensatory picks for your busts we would get a ton of them. It would make Idzik and MacG look really good.
     
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    Agreed completely. They should get rid of compensatory picks, it's stupid. Surprised the player's union doesn't have issue with it
     
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    I believe that was his point. The Patriots can afford to pay their free agents but they don't because they know they will get compensated for it. That's why the system is flawed. It was not designed to reward that kind of decision making
     
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  13. Jonathan_Vilma

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    The implication is that teams cannot afford to sign their free agents so they are rewarded for not being able to. Which isn't true in a league funded through revenue sharing that requires teams to spend X amount of money over a four year period.

    I don't really think it's too flawed. They in particular are just simply too good at it because they are able to identify position groups that they can create a pipeline for in rounds 3, 4 and 5.

    The Patriots aren't this all amazing drafting team. They just make sure that they stockpile picks so they have more room for error when they do miss. Meanwhile teams like the Jets, and Browns ignore that strategy because they'd prefer to get headlines with big signings in March. The Patriots always lose March.
     
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    No cause they would just waste the comp picks on more busts.
     
  15. chandler

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    as others have said, it's something that we should aspire to

    would be great to have some drafting acumen so we have a pipeline of quality players (even if not all pro), letting some leave but refreshing the pipeline with the comp picks

    instead for the last several (painful) years we pick busts who when they leave us they're out of football

    it's darkest before the dawn: looking forward to better days
     
  16. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    Who cares about the Patriots to begin with? They are on the verge of losing Tom Brady to FA and they'll once again become the team from the N.E region where fans no longer even care enough to talk about anymore (just like it's always been historically speaking before Brady). All of their "accomplishments" are also tainted with asterisks and will never be respected throughout the eyes of sports fans.

    I don't care how many comp picks they have because without Tom Brady, Bill Belichick can not consistently win without Tom Brady.

    5 years in Cleveland (80 games). Career losing record without Tom Brady of 36-44 (only 1 winning season and 4 losing seasons of below .500 coaching).
    1st year in N.E without Tom Brady (2000) he went 5-11.

    1st 6 years in the league as head coach without Tom Brady? 41-55 (14 games below .500). 1 winning season compared to 5 losing seasons after 6 years; he's a fraud.

    Bill Belichick did not start to win until his 7th season in the league (2001) once he got lucky with Tom Brady. Without Tom Brady he would be a career loser.

    And in 2008 without Tom Brady (injured) he went 11-5.

    7 years without Tom Brady with a coaching record of 52-60 (8 games below .500) and a career loser of a head coach without Tom Brady.

    Once Brady leaves? Bill Belichick is fkd as a career loser without him. 7 years of 8 games below .500 doesn't lie without the greatest QB of All-Time.
     
  17. No Fly Zone

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    to be eligible you need to lose more players than you sign. Due to moron's at 1 jets Drive making poor draft choices then constantly having to sign free agents to make up for bad picks the Jets rarely qualify for comp picks. The Pats seem to give up on players or let them go a year or so earlier than most teams and they tend to not sign high priced free agents so they qualify. It's not like their draft choices are great but they find a way to use flawed players until they are used up. The Jets can't even find a way to use good players. That's the difference imho.
     
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  18. ukjetsfan

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    No doubt the Jets mismanage this like they mismanage everything... but I just don't see why the system needs to be in place at all.
     
  19. TwoHeadedMonster

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    To be fair, go back and look at that draft. As bad as he sucks, he is still a top 5 player from that draft. That draft was awful--just garbage.
     
  20. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    Top 5? You're kidding me. And this is coming from someone who supported Leo. But top 5? Not a chance.

    Amari Cooper.
    Brandon Scherff.
    Dante Fowler.
    Todd Gurley.
    Melvin Gordon.
    Marcus Peters.
    Vic Beasley.
    Andrus Peat.

    This wasn't even the entire draft. This was simply and only 1st round selections and all of these players are way better with way more production than Leonard Williams could only dream of...
     
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