Compensatory picks 2014

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  1. BamaDoc

    BamaDoc Active Member

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    As an optimist, I see we should /could be in line for a boatload of comp picks in 2014. I looked up the rules and in a nut shell it is based on the number of your players who leave on expired contracts, their new contract value and performance minus what you sign. Picks are at the end of rounds three thru seven. Max awarded picks is four which we should reach.

    It appears a lot of our FA are indeed leaving so I thought I would start a list of each. Note Garrard was a cut player so he doesn't count against us and likewise Pouha will get us nothing because we released him.

    We may not sign a lot of expired contract guys because due to our FA losses they could cost us a pick. i.e. if two players equal value sign the cut guy.

    So far losses include:

    Landry 4yrs for 24 million

    Keller 1 for 4.25

    Devito 3 years 12.6

    Greene 3 years 10

    Bell 1 yr .905

    likely losses:

    Folk ? Moore Slauson

    Signings so far:

    Goodson 3 yrs 6.9

    The formula is not published but for the past year it looked like a contract averaging 5 million might get you to the fourth round comp pick. 4.5 million around 5th round and 3 million was a sixth round. This is ballpark and I am no expert just thought some people might like to know. I am not sure how resigning one of your own who has become a free agent counts. I don't think it does but I am sure someone knows. Perhaps a moderator could pin this so we could update it as free agency unfolds. Since I expect our signings to be low value we want our guys who leave to get as much as they can(Landry Keller Moore) to bump us past the sixth round that Greene and DeVito ballpark around. Update with Landry prob 5 th rounder.
     
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  2. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    From Wikipedia:

     
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  3. Jerseyboyisback

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    What is a 3rd?? They said revis will get that for sure if he walks next year!
     
  4. BamaDoc

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    Thirds are the big dollar contracts like we would expect him to get. it varies by year but eight to ten should get you there. We would be in line for a 2015 third for Revis and only if we don't sign one less free agent than we lose. If we lose three and sign three then maybe we get a pick as the wikipedia definition indicates but it would be a seventh! If we sign four due to having cap room and lose three we may get nothing hence the reason some advocate trading him now. Please lets not turn this into another Revis thread but stick with 2014.
     
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    Gotcha, was just wondering the dollar amount and if landry could get a 3rd in return just using revis as an example.

    Thanks
     
  6. BamaDoc

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    updated for Keller and Goodson. Goodson may offset Greene? Best case as of now a four and two fives maybe a seven for Bell. Guess at worst case a five and two sixes.
     
  7. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

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    we should at least get a 4 for Landry.
     
  8. Skicats

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    Free agency is still going on, and the Jets will sign more people. When FA is over, thas when you will have a good idea of the comp picks.
     
  9. BamaDoc

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    Bump for Revis is your Daddy
     
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    You can't make predictions because you have no idea how these players will play in 2014. For example, if the players that left dont do shit, and Goodson, Colon, Garrard have great years, then you aren't getting shit. You have to wait.
     
  11. foolish

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    what are our comp pics this year?
     
  12. SeattleJet

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    We no compensatory picks this year. ZERO.
     
  13. Mambo9

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    Good thing is Kolb and Colon got cut so they don't count as FA. Goodson, Garrard and Garay do though.
    So far we lost 5 and signed 3.
     
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  14. Lon Chaney

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    Colon and Garrard have no bearing on this process. They were released by their teams and therefore not applicable towards free agency.
     
  15. Jets4eva9011

    Jets4eva9011 Well-Known Member

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    Only Goodson and Barnes have signed with us outright.

    So if we sign DHB and someone like Huff/Pollard, it won't count since they were cut by their teams.
     
  16. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Jets get short end of the stick again in 2013

    No pick for us this year. Not only that but Cleveland and Houston are the omly teams to get less than us since the whole thing started in 1994:

    http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/03-18-13-compensatory-draft-picks.pdf

    The following 2013 compensatory draft picks have been determined by the NFL Management Council:
    ROUND CHOICE/
    ROUND OVERALL SELECTION TEAM
    3 33-95 Houston
    3 34-96 Kansas City
    3 35-97 Tennessee
    4 33-130 Baltimore
    4 34-131 San Francisco
    4 35-132 Detroit
    4 36-133 Atlanta
    5 33-166 Miami
    5 34-167 Green Bay
    5 35-168 Baltimore
    6 33-201 Houston
    6 34-202 Tennessee
    6 35-203 Baltimore
    6 36-204 Kansas City
    6 37-205 Oakland
    6 38-206 Pittsburgh
    7 33-239 Philadelphia
    7 34-240 Cincinnati
    7 35-241 Seattle
    7 36-242 Seattle
    7 37-243 Atlanta
    7 38-244 Atlanta
    7 39-245 Detroit7 40-246 San Francisco
    7 41-247 Baltimore
    7 42-248 Tennessee
    7 43-249 Atlanta
    7 44-250 Miami
    7 45-251 Cincinnati
    7 46-252 San Francisco
    7 47-253 New York Giants
    7 48-254 Indianapolis

    Following are the compensatory free agents lost and signed last year by the clubs that will receive compensatory picks in the 2013 NFL Draft:
    ATLANTA Lost: Kelvin Hayden, Curtis Lofton, James Sanders, Eric Weems
    Signed: None
    BALTIMORE Lost: Ben Grubbs, Jarret Johnson, Brandon McKinney, Haruki Nakamura, Cory
    Redding, Tom Zbikowski
    Signed: Sean Considine, Corey Graham
    CINCINNATI Lost: Andre Caldwell, Nate Livings, Mike McGlynn, Frostee Rucker, Jerome Simpson
    Signed: Jason Allen, Jamaal Anderson, BenJarvus Green-Ellis
    DETROIT Lost: Drew Stanton, Eric Wright
    Signed: None
    GREEN BAY Lost: Matt Flynn, Scott Wells
    Signed: Jeff Saturday
    HOUSTON Lost: Jason Allen, Mike Brisiel, Joel Dreessen, Mario Williams
    Signed: Bradie James, Donnie Jones
    INDIANAPOLIS Lost: Jamaal Anderson, Pierre Garcon, Dan Orlovsky, Jeff Saturday, Jacob Tamme,
    Philip Wheeler
    Signed: Mike McGlynn, Brandon McKinney, Cory Redding, Samson Satele, Drew Stanton,
    Tom Zbikowski
    KANSAS CITY Lost: Brandon Carr, Le’Ron McClain, Kyle Orton, Barry Richardson
    Signed: Peyton Hillis, Brady Quinn
    MIAMI Lost: Will Allen, Chad Henne, Kendall Langford
    Signed: Richard Marshall
    NEW YORK GIANTS Lost: Mario Manningham, Aaron Ross, David Tollefson
    Signed: Martellus Bennett, Sean Locklear, Shaun Rogers
    OAKLAND Lost: Michael Bush, Jason Campbell, Samson Satele, Trevor Scott
    Signed: Mike Brisiel, David Tollefson, Philip Wheeler
    PHILADELPHIA Lost: Juqua Parker, Steve Smith
    Signed: Demetress Bell
    PITTSBURGH Lost: William Gay
    Signed: None
    SAN FRANCISCO Lost: Blake Costanzo, Joshua Morgan, Madieu Williams
    Signed: Mario Manningham
    SEATTLE Lost: Atari Bigby, John Carlson, David Hawthorne, Charlie Whitehurst
    Signed: Matt Flynn, Jason Jones
    TENNESSEE Lost: Cortland Finnegan, William Hayes, Jason Jones
    Signed: None

    TOTAL 2013 NFL COMPENSATORY DRAFT PICKS

    Atlanta 4
    Baltimore 4
    San Francisco 3
    Tennessee 3
    Cincinnati 2
    Detroit 2
    Houston 2
    Kansas City 2
    Miami 2
    Seattle 2
    Green Bay 1
    Indianapolis 1
    New York Giants 1
    Oakland 1
    Philadelphia 1
    Pittsburgh 1
    TOTAL 32

    NFL CLUB SUMMARY OF COMPENSATORY DRAFT PICKS, 1994-2013 *
    Baltimore 37
    Green Bay 31
    Dallas 30
    Philadelphia 30
    Tennessee *** 30
    St. Louis ** 27
    Buffalo 26
    New England 26
    Pittsburgh 26
    NY Giants 22
    San Francisco 22
    Cincinnati 20
    Indianapolis 20
    Seattle 20
    Jacksonville 19
    San Diego 18
    Tampa Bay 18
    Chicago 17
    Detroit 17
    Miami 17
    Minnesota 17
    Oakland 17
    Arizona 16
    Atlanta 15
    Kansas City 15
    Carolina 14
    Washington 12
    New Orleans 10
    Denver 9
    NY Jets 9
    Cleveland 6
    Houston 6
    TOTAL 619

    * 1994 was the first year that compensatory draft choices were awarded.
    ** St. Louis picks include those awarded to Los Angeles Rams.
    *** Tennessee picks include those awarded to Houston Oilers.
     
  17. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    I guess that means we do a pretty good job of holding onto our best players.
     
  18. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Comp picks are stupid anyway. Why should they even have that? You can't sign your players thats your own fault- you shouldn't be compensated for it. In what realm does that make sense.
     
  19. NYJFan10

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    Or we trade all our good players before that point (Abraham, Douglas, Keyshawn, Vilma, now Revis most likely).
     
  20. ajax

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    Think it also shows how much Jets struggled in the draft. Not to often a vet hit FA & there was a young guy on rookie contract ready to step in & take his role.
     

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