Tyron Smith weighing at 307 is going to shoot him way up the boards. He had DBrick disease in school, always playing at a low weight/losing weight as the season went along, but being able to get his body up to this weight so quickly is a good sign. If he works out well tomorrow he could be top ten (#9 Dallas). Cam and Gabbert both looked the part at the weigh in, and Mallett apparently looked fat. Mark Ingram is also the perfect size for playing the Running Back position, 5'9 215. Combine workouts start tomorrow, and the weigh ins continue with DLs and LBs.
Tyron Smith has starting to grow on me ever since I drafted him a while back, no way he drops that far IRL though. His experience at RT only may scare some, but he has the strength and athleticism to pull it off. He's one of the new breeds, you don't have to weigh 320 pounds and have a gut to be a LT. And funny enough, Sideline Scouting picked 2/3 of the same players I did for the Falcon's in their update on the 13th(so I didn't copy them). And BTW Is it true Torrey Smith has 8 and 5/8th inch hands?
Wow!! That's going to be a red-flag, let's see how he runs, I expect him to be lightning fast. Smith is so much more polished than Heyward-Bey.
Haha, that explains why he catches with his body so much. I just checked, only 4 guys had hands under 9 inches last year, and two of them were 5'6.
According to this Smiths hands are thats small. http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/The-skill-position-weighin-results.html
Eh. 20 pounds is ALOT. and its certainly not 20 pounds of straight up muscle. Maybe half and half. Thats my thought.
With all due respect to a couple of my draft compadres....not to say I told you so: Dion Lewis measured at 5' 6 5/8" . I knew Lewis would never measure 5' 8" which Pitt had him listed. I love Lewis, he's explosive, maybe the next Dexter McCluster...only Rd 3/4 at best.
I don't doubt a good bit is fat, but for Devine, that's still a positive. He can forfeit some speed for weight an still be one of the fastest there. By "good weight" I meant more of carrying it well also, if he adds that weigh and looks bad physically or it affects his performance, he needs to drop it...
Lewis has 20 lbs and two less inches than McCluster though. He's built like a running back (193 is pretty good weight for his height), it's just that he's overall smaller than other guys. The kid still has a monster lower body, and I think can definitely play as a true LB in the league. He is small enough that it'll be tough to break tackles as a true RB, so he'll have to be a changeup guy, but he doesn't have near the receiving skills of a unique talent like McCluster. That said, you were definitely right, he didn't have the minimum size I was hoping to see. I love 5'9, 5'8 is fine, but 5'7 starts to scare me. Also, pretty funny that after years of getting knocks on his height, Devine actually measured out taller than some of the more highly rated RBs.
I never watched Mark Ingram and thought this is gonna be an elite RB at the next level. I like the guys who do at least one thing great ... power, speed, wiggle ... at least two if I'm spending a 1st RD Pick on a RB That doesn't mean he can't be great, there have been plenty of exceptions, I'm just not comfortable drafting a RB with a high pick if he doesn't have one or two dominant characteristics as a RB Of course I'm wrong PLENTY so who really knows, its just a thing I have with RB's, goes back to why I had a bad feeling about Blair Thomas when we picked him despite all of his college success. Having said that he's gonna be a 1st RD Pick, you have him in about the right spot on your value board, I'm not disputing that, I just wouldn't have a good feeling about that pick.
Ingram may never be great, but his big positive is that he is very good at every thing and has a very low chance to be a bust. What you see is what you get. He's not Barry Sanders, but he's also no Ki-jana Carter.
Even as a Bama fan, I don't see Ingram as an Elite top 5 type back in the NFL, but I can see him being in that 10-15 area. He's a consistent back that is good/very good, but not great in almost everything you'd want in a RB. Only thing I would say he possesses on a Elite level is his Vision and his ball security. Best case scenario IMO, Steven Jackson. Worst case? Thomas Jones with receiving ability... EDIT: Damn, I didn't even notice Harpua said almost the same thing.
I think the three of us are pretty much in agreement, MG, I don't think he's gonna stink and I hope I didn't leave that impression, I just don't think he'll be an elite RB therefore I would be very squimish about taking him in the 1st RD I don't want to say Good RB's are a dime-a-dozen, that might be overstating it, but I feel like you can draft a Good RB outside of RD 1, someone like Shonn Greene and there are so many more examples, therefore I'm not sure if I see the wisdom in spending a 1 on a RB if you don't even expect him to be an elite RB when you draft him. See what I'm saying? BTW Great avatar .. I LOVED Bear Bryant ... my all-time favorite college coach.
Agreed with everything being said. Especially about drafting running backs, I mean just look at the top 10 rushers last year, only 3 were first round picks. Plus running backs have the shortest life expectancy in the leauge so their is good reasoning not to draft a player who may not even play 5 years. Also, I've read some sites that say Dion Lewis could be the next MJD, is that a fair assessment?
The position as a whole has really lost value in today's game, so I definitely can see where you are coming from and I do agree with you. The RB class is full of depth this year, but no must get prospects spearheading the group as a whole. And thanks, I saw that pic in the Alabama Sports HOF and I had to get a shot of it, although it was in 2004 with a camera phone from the same year, so quality isn't great. They had a few photos of that same Jets visit, had a great shot of him with Namath and Lyons too...
Marvin Austin just put up 38 reps on the bench press. This is a guy that supposedly wasn't taking the draft process seriously. If his motor wasn't questionable, he'd be a top tier player at the position.
Ingram has ran a 4.58 and a 4.61. I'd be hardpressed to find someone who thought he'd be that much faster... EDIT: Although his 1.53 10 yard split is pretty good, shows his initial burst off...
