Chicago Cubs sign Jeff Samardizja

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  1. kinghenry89

    kinghenry89 New Member

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2490178

    The Cubs signed Samardizja (who is a pretty damn good pitcher) to a 5 year contract to play baseball for them. According to the report he will still be able to play football for the Irish, but this is certainly a sign that he is at least as serious about baseball as he is about football.

    I doubt this is going to turn into a Drew Henson situation but this deal should definately affect his NFL draft status.
     
  2. BIG COUNTRY

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    Damn I think he should play football but I guess whatever he wants to do, at least ND football comes first for him.
     
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    I would say play baseball because he is obviously a special talent in both sports but in baseball he will not suffer the kind of injuries that can make him die early. Most football players die early and miss out on 15-20 years of their life. Although football may be more appealing. Go with baseball and you health
     
  4. Coach K

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    he can make alot more money doing nothing in baseball.
     
  5. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Would you rather make more money and suck? Or dare to be great and make less money?

    I'll take the latter.
     
  6. BIG COUNTRY

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    More money and suck is what id take. Id take $7 million over $2 million and greatness.
     
  7. Green Hurricane

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    OK, here's why I don't get it. 5 year deal that will have him toiling in the minor leagues for probably 4 years to make 7.5 million; or, focus on football, be a top 15 pick, and make something like 12 million over 5 years with about 9 of it guaranteed at least (those numbers are what I estimated the #15 pick to have in 07, 10.5 and 7.8 in '05). Him deciding to play both baseball and football will hurt him pretty bad in the draft, especially in this class, which is going to be absolutely LOADED with 1st round caliber Receiver prospects.
     
  8. ScotsJet

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    As a Cubs fan I'm conflicted. I just can't shake the feeling that it's a wasted pick and he won't ever play for us. Still, one can but hope.
     
  9. mem_reddog

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    Between the 2 sports, I would choose baseball because football doesn't have guaranteed contracts. It would strictly be a business decision and a pretty easy one at that. But we all know that by him signing with the cubs this pretty much guarantees he will be injured. :) The only pitcher who this doesn't seem to apply to is Carlos Zambrano. (knocking on wood right now)
     
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    Thank god it's finally got to Glendon Rusch!
     
  11. Green Hurricane

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    Again, I point out while the NFL has no guaranteed contracts, the signing bonus is guaranteed, and anywhere in the top 20 or so would equal the guaranteed money from the baseball deal. Also, when you consider the likelihood of getting a 2nd contract, I'd call it much higher in the NFL than the MLB.
     
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    That is not entirely true either, because there are instances where players have been required to return portions of said signing bonuses. Whereas in baseball I can't think of any instances where players have been required to return money or lose any of their contract.


    Scotsjet I don't believe Rusch is hurt, but he sure stinks this year. I believe this move was made because of his ineffectiveness and they just did not want to say as much, because Rusch makes a lot of money. This move was made, so Hendry would not look bad, after all the acquisition and resigning of Glendon was Hendry's. How Hendry got a contract extension is just mind boggling.
     
  13. ganooch

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    As long as I can watch him catching passes from Quinn this fall.
     
  14. Coach K

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    lol i fuckin hate baseball, that was my point.
     
  15. mem_reddog

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    that is just unamerican :)
     
  16. Green Hurricane

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    The only time players would return part of their bonus is if they violate their contract in some way, if a MLB player were to violate his contract, he'd also have the remainder of it voided. Paying back bonuses is not something that happens with any sort of regularity.
     
  17. Coach K

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    haha

    nah i just dont find it fun to sit down and watch a whole baseball game when theres over 100 in the season. theres no urgency.

    i follow baseball via sports center and maybe some articles here an there. but ill only watch if its an interesting playoff series or to watch my yanks attempt to buy another ring.
     
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    I just can't remember any instances where this happened in baseball, but it certainly could have happened. and you are right it certainly hasn't happened on a regular basis in football. But my main point is that guaranteed contracts is the way to go, I would much rather know that if I get cut or anything of that nature I will still get paid the remainder of my contract, which is not the case in football. If at any time in football they decide to terminate the contract, you will not get paid. So from a business standpoint it is an easy decision.

    I grew up playing and watching baseball, basketball and football. And I still love to watch them all. I just wish I lived closer to a professional baseball team so that I could watch the games live more often. There is nothing like going to a baseball park and enjoying the whole experience with your kids. I still remember those days for me as a kid. But I see you are in Florida and I would rather be on the beach than looking at a tv also. :)
     
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  19. Green Hurricane

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    Well, you wouldn't get paid the remainder of your contract, but you'd still have the signing bonus in full, as well as all additional money made on the previous years of the deal. You'd also obviously be open to signing a new contract, with a new bonus. In Jeff's case in particular, the NFL deal he's likely to get as a top 20 pick is much more attractive from a business standpoint than the baseball deal he received.
     
  20. mem_reddog

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    I agree that he will probably get a better football deal, if he meets or exceeds what he did last year which should put him in the top 20. But you never know how the NFL draft will work out. Also I am not really sure how deep the draft will be in WR next year. It's great for him that he has all these options though. I think his performance on the field this year will be the determining factor.
     

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