boozer32's Entire Jets 2021 Offseason Projection

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  1. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    I agree its should be Trevor all the way anything else would piss me off to the highest of pisiitivity.
     
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    Would you want a solid team top to bottom that knows how to win with an avg QB (sam), or a team full of holes that finds a new way to lose every week with a 'generational' QB who'd be generational on any other team?
     
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    It's not personal view I borrowed it from another site and posted here for some converstaion. No way would I not take Lawrence.
     
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    Maybe but Sam is a bad quarterback right now. One of the worst in the NFL if not the worst at the moment. So who is the average QB we'd be working with?
     
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    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    What?? None of this is your work? You posted it as your own in the thread title dude...
     
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    Great point. But why can't we do both and be like the Steelers, Saints, Green Bay and Seahawks who seem to be reload every year it seems. But I like your thinking and I'm sure the Jets brass has had that talk.
     
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    Not how I intended it to role out. I did in the first paragraph state that this was not my vision for the Jets offseason. I just thought it was something people would like to see and discuss besides losing every game for a whole season.
     
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    What?

     
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    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    I can’t get on board with moving Becton to right tackle when he’s already trending towards elite at left. 7.4 for fant is worth it. Good effort on the mock but not a fan.
     
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    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    Well I promise you I wrote out that this was another site. I also look at it and saw someone injected Boozer32 in the title. I just edited but could not remove the Boozer32 from the title.
     
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    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I'm glad that it wasn't your view and that you want Lawrence.
     
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    I want a solid team top to bottom that knows how to win with an above average to elite QB.
     
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    It doesn't have to be one or the other. That's ridiculous!
     
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    I got angry reading that.
     
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    Me too. It was probably written by a Pats, Bills or Dolphins fan. It repeats every mistake the Jets have made over the last 10 years or so...passing on an elite QB prospect, doubling up on a position of strength (OT and TE) and ignoring other positions of need, drafting too much defense high rather than building around Sam, hiring a defensive-minded coordinator, rather than one who will focus on offense to help ensure that Lawrence and the offense succeeds, and has crazy things like FAs signing here on a "prove-it" deal, and Chuba Hubbard falling to the 6th round. People who write crap like that should stick to Madden.
     
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    If Sam showed any promise this year, the Jets probably do the Jax trade adding to a ridiculous amount of picks in rounds 1-3 over the next 2 drafts.

    But the reality is Sam looked horrible yesterday. Even more concerning, if yesterday was Sam healthy he needs a fresh start somewhere with better structure.
     
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    There are exceptions to the rule though. It's not completely wrong what he said... The draft flow chart Is there as a foundation, every year, teams will trade under or over that chart.

    Then you have exceptions to the rule. TL would absolutely be that exception, you just don't see It often because most teams are smart enough to take a generational talent when they see one. They are rare, so the only reason It doesn't seem that way, Is because of the rarity of It.

    ..but, obviously, there has been ridiculous trades in NFL history. Often one-sided In hindsight. Usually picks for players are the biggest lop-sided stories In history.

    Point Is. There Is no reason to think that regardless of where you are picking In the draft, that a kings ransom wouldn't be asked for the chance to draft TL. It would happen. It should happen, otherwise, why wouldn't you just take the generational talent?

    I don't think JD Is that idiotic. So, I'm not concerned with that scenario, but If you can outright steal that many picks from another team, It would be wroth considering at least.

    I would still take TL though, but, If that was the loot I would get from the Jags. While also getting the second best QB In the draft. A QB that would certainly go #1 overall In a lot of other drafts. Yeah, I would consider that. No way I take a lineman though. Not there.
     
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    Oh crap I didn’t see that ....lol.
     
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    It really is a shame for a lot of reasons......Darnold not being “ the guy “ sets the rebuild back obviously. If Darnold isn’t the franchise QB it’s just about back to square one. I really feel you are correct - if he gets a new start somewhere else with better coaching and a better team structure he can be a good QB - he does have the talent.

    Even worse if Darnold did turn out to be the franchise QB and the Jets still wound up with the #1 pick JD could trade down and get many high kicks in return and speed up the rebuild. Imagine JD trading down and getting two or three first round picks in subsequent years and maybe even a second round pick along with that. That would have given the Jets at least two first round picks in the next three to four years ( counting the Adams trade ).

    Lastly I feel bad for Darnold. He seems like a good kid, never complains, just tries to go about his job. He’s had terrible luck, between the mono and the injuries - due in part to Mac’s mismanagement of the OL and a lack of playmakers. If he is traded or winds up on another team I hope he finds himself ( as long as it’s not the Patriots of course ).
     
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    Yes, there are exceptions to every rule, but they are "exceptions" for a reason, i.e., they don't usually happen. It is also common sense. A team is going to have to give up a lot more to move up to the #1 spot from #18 than they would from #2. Yes, to pass up on taking Trevor Lawrence, it would be steep to move up from even #2, but it would be a lot more steep from #18. I didn't say that it wouldn't be steep. Of course it would be, and should be steep if you're gonna pass up on a QB prospect like that. The only reason a team should do that (pass up on a prospect like Lawrence) is if they already have a FQB like Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, or Tom Brady in their prime. Of course, teams with those QBs aren't going to be drafting #1 in the draft.

    I don't think that JD is an idiot at all. He's not going to pass up on Lawrence. That would be a career-defining and most likely, a career-ending mistake. The only scenarios in which I could see JD passing on Lawrence is if: 1) JD sees Lawrence and Fields as even and he gets blown away with a ridiculous offer like the Herschel Walker trade or the Mike Ditka trading his whole draft for a player (Ricky Williams?); 2) perhaps Fields is a better fit with the new HC's offense; 3) Lawrence's throwing arm/shoulder get seriously injured such that it could be a chronic issue; 4) something shocking comes out about Lawrence's character; 5) Lawrence informs JD that he won't sign with the Jets.

    Yes, there have been ridiculous trades in the NFL thanks to idiots like Mike Ditka and whomever was the GM of the Vikings in the Herschel Walker trade. As dumb as Mac was, even he wasn't dumb enough to give up 1st round picks to move up to take Darnold.
     
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