Never did. He has a background in defense and his defenses routinely stank. Just one playoff win with all those weapons on offense is pathetic. My picks for tomorrow are Rex, Mike Smith, Marc Trestman and Jay Gruden.
Oh please let them go crazy in Atlanta and dump Dimitroff too. I'd shit myself if we got him or DeCostra.
Mike Smith turn more more victories into defeats with his game mismanagement than any coach I can ever remember. Made Rex look like Tom Landry.
@AdamSchefter: Raiders requested to interview 49ers TE coach Eric Mangini for HC, as @MikeGarafolo reported. Mangini's smart, seasoned, and would be strong
Doy you think he soften up as a HC? He was a good talent evaluator, and helped bring in some good players for the jets. He was too hard as a HC though. I give him credit for going to the offensive side of the ball and learning that facett of the game, it says a lot about him trying to be well rounded in his knowledge of the game.
I'm really interested to follow how he does if he becomes HC. I liked him while he was here, but sounds like he needed to see players more as players. Will be interesting
I always liked Mangini too. I think he was underrated here. He developed players nicely and I liked some of his in game decision making... (saving timeouts at all costs). He was also much better at making in-game adjustments than Rex ever was. Probably the best at adjusting on the fly we've had here since Parcells. Certainly he wasn't loved by the players though. However I wonder how much of that was overstated because the NY media did not like him. The media was unbelievably softer on Rex than they were on Mangini because Rex gave them the soundbites and stories continually.
I think he was trying too hard to be a HC, it showed when he went to Cleveland. He covered the mural of JB, it's a slap in the face to any organization, and you can't do that and say you respect the game. If he is hired, I too will follow and see what becomes of his career.
I agree for the most part. It seems his downfall was that he lacked people skills. You don't have to be liked, but you do have to be respected. People don't usually respect assholes. If he's learned some people skills he could be a good one.
That's very true. That's what you get when you hire first time coaches like Woody has done his whole time here. You get an Eric Mangini with a lot of positives just needing to learn how to manage people and take it to his next stint, you get a Rex Ryan who had a lot of positives just needing to learn there is another side of the ball and take it to his next stint.. etc. That's why it might be good to try something new and hire a coach this time who already learned the tough lessons on someone else's dime and resources...
I think that for the most part, it's about personnel. ("It's more about the Joes than the X's and O's.") If we start repairing the team with wise free agency moves and a couple of good drafts, we'll be just fine. The biggest element will be the QB - if we manage to get one who can develop into a top-8 or so guy, and surround him with reasonable talent, we can absolutely be contenders. But that's a lot of "if's". Woody Johnson really hasn't hired any terrible coaches so far. Edwards and Mangini both got HC jobs the next season after Woody let them go (Edwards was even traded.) Rex will also get another HC job in 2015. Usually a bad HC has to spend years as a coordinator before he gets another shot, if he ever does. All of WJ's former HCs got HC jobs again, the very next season. (Well, we don't know for sure if Rex will, but it seems like many teams are interested and I'd be surprised if they all turned him down.) Where Johnson really screwed up was with John Idzik. He should've either fired both Rex and Tanny together, or kept both. We'll have to see how his next HC and GM go, but based on his track record, I'd be more worried about the GM he picks. He has yet to hire a genuinely bad HC.
Mangini would have to clean house in Oakland if he went there. Lots of entitled vets on a bad team. Buzzsaw to that roster would have to be the first step.
