Chad is fine, Houston and Washington will be great, you want to get a speed burner at wideout, OK... The answer to Chad becoming a perennial Pro Bowl and Super Bowl QB, and our running game controling things is what it always is... big physical lineplay with an attitude. The Jets front office, past and present, has an idea about light and quick and smart. Sorry...in the 4th quarter of a playoff game, or any game, it mass and muscle that wins the day. You saw what kind of mental gymnastics Belichick went through last week to play us, maybe Mangini outsmarts him next time, maybe not. I'd rather pound the crap out of the Patriots and win going away. This goes for both sides of the line of scrimmage.
The only guy really undersized on our line is Kendall and he is arguably our best lineman. I agree we need bigger guards and definately a better space eater at RE to replace Kimo, but i wouldnt say tangini likes light and quick. Dbrick has a huge frame. He just has to fill out. And Mangold is the definition of attitude on the line.
I agree 100%. The way the Steelers did it last year was through their lines. I still do not think that Big Ben is that great. His line did a great job of giving him time and confidence to make his passes. How about Neil O'Donell? Same deal with him. I did not get in on the thread about Chad and Montana. The owners of the 49ers are from my town. In the 80's the Browns and Steelers were the NBC games and the 49ers were always on the local CBC channel. I got to see a lot of Joe Montana and although I do agree that Montana is better than Chad, I can understand were people make the comparison.
The Steelers offensive line has gotten much worse the last few years. They just do not move people off the line and their tackles aren't anything great. Max Starks is like a statue at RT. The Jets don't need bigger lineman, they need good lineman. The Pats don't have the biggest line but they are all smart and play with excellent technique.
Thank you for making this post. I was planning on making a similiar thread sometime this evening. We need some kind of upgrade on this offensive line. Whether it be to replace Pete Kendal, Brandon Moore or Anthony Clement would be a big boost to this offense. Leon Washington has the speed to make a big difference in games. Cedric Houston runs very hard every play and always fights for the extra yards. I really like both of these guys. Did you see some of the holes that the San Diego line was creating for Tomlinson and Turner? They were tremendous. Put either of the two behind the Jets offensive line and I garuntee they lose a little production. Our line isn't bad, but it needs a little more help yet. The help should come in free agency IMO. Same with the defensive line. This team needs a big, run stuffing NT that can have a big impact like Vince Wilfork, Casey Hampton or Jamal Williams. That's why those 3-4 teams are so good against the run. We also need another DE. Maybe Adam Carricker? Or maybe D-Rob can play DE? Either way, if we can get a NT, quality DE and an upgrade or two on the offesnive line, you will be very surprised at how fast this team can improve.
Kendall gets another year but should be replace in 2008. Clement is a UFA and should be upgraded. Moore is still under contract but we could use an upgrade there as well. Also TE and FB upgrades would help our offense as well.
Eh, I like Baker. He seems like a pretty good blocker and when given the chance, a very nice reciever. FB is another story. We could use a big lead blocker.
Agreed. Baker was underused this past season and needs to be involved more. FB is a big need this offseason, a Lorenzo Neal type would be nice.
Per in another thread made today, I think the Jets also need to go get a really good blocking TE. Becht was not much in the receiving department, but there was a reason Curtis won the rushing title in 2004. Baker needs to be the focus of the passing game next year. He really flashed in the playoffs this year. You look at New England and San Diego, both those team employ 2 and 3 tight end sets -- as the Jets used to -- small wonder those teams have productive running games. Where in PA are you JetfaninPA?
D'Brick has filled out his frame, thats what most people dont understand. he entered college at 245 and managed to put on almost 50 lbs of muscle. hes physically peaked, plain and simple. thats why D'Brick looks like a 290 lb TE. thats where the athleticism comes from, hes a TE on roids. he'll never maintain his combine weight.
Can't find the article where d'brick says that he understands the importance of maintaining and gaining playing weight. But found this: http://www.newsday.com/sports/footb...045732jan09,0,858984.story?coll=ny-jets-print
The idea of a bigger line being a better line is a complete farce. The Arizona Cardinals started 3 lineman this season that were 330 pounds and up and they couldn't move the football with a guy who up to this point has been a Hall of Fame quality running back. On the other hand, the Indianapolis Colts run the ball at will and none of their interior lineman is listed at 300 pounds. The Broncos start ONE lineman over 300 pounds(Erik Pears, who is 308 at 6 feet 8 inches tall). Sorry, but the size of our line wasn't a problem when Curtis Martin won a rushing title a few years back. The two free agents we will probably pursue are Cooper Carlisle and Eric Steinbach. Both are smaller but technically sound lineman. Either would be an upgrade over Moore. -X- -X-
i say he got to 315 because he lived in a weight room for the combine. which is why he dropped to around 285-290 during the season. only way he maintains a weight above 300 during the season is if some of it is just bulk. hes done putting on and maintaining muscle.
I'm not saying that you are wrong, but why are you speaking in such a definitive tone? From what I have read, he has been able to put on muscle every year pretty consistently (at least comparing beginning of seasons to prior years). Why can't this trend continue?
Teams are shying away from stressing beef along the OL. Want proof? Marcus McNeill falling to late round 2, MJ Gilles falling to the 5th round, Elton Brown falling to the 5th round...etc... The philisophy is that the bigger linemen cant handle the athletic speed rushing defenders of today. A good reason why former early round picks like Mike Williams are out of the league. I believe every team needs one big strong anchor preferibly on the right side, to support the running game. Consequently you need one small athletic guy who can pull and anchor the pass protection. We have 2 athletic guys to build around in Mangold and Ferguson...now we need the big strong anchor for the running game. We can fill in the OL holes from there.
Sign Stinhcomb for LG Sign L.Davis for RG Cut or trade kendall Draft Levi Brown at 26 Solved for years
