It is becoming increasingly appalling watching the same football media that couldn't wait to point out how Pennington (As a member of the NYJ)couldn't throw outside the numbers, and how efficiency was "Nice",but never enough, especially against good defenses,and the same media that spent 5 weeks with wall to wall Favre love when he stepped down, now has Pennington headed to canton (with those mighty 14 TD's) and Favre 21 tds and leading one of the highest SCORING teams in football ready for the scrapheap.
It just p!$$e$ me off. Especially with Favre in the pro bowl. The 'anal cysts' ave been whining all week. Oh Chad...he's so efficient...(But Favre has a higher completion pct. and 7 more TD's) No one ever seems to note in making the comparison, that Favre gives you 4+ 20 yard plays week in and week out, something it takes Chad half a season to do.
Hobbes, you know how this works man. The Media needs a story. When one isn't there? Create, create, create. They have no interest in not stirring up the endless Farve vs. Pennington debate. It sells and that's what their editors are concerned with.
Sorry Dude but Chad is the 4th ranked QB in the League as far as QB rating is concerned , He has more Yards than Favre, a higher Yards per Attempt than Favre, A better TD to Int Ratio and has led a team with less talent than the Jets to the Same record -- He deserves all the accolades he gets. Also Favre doesn't belong in the Pro Bowl and with Sunday Ticket I see most of the Fins games as well, In 2008 Chad Pennington has a better vertical passing game then Brett. Favre hasn't given us 4 20+ yard plays a week unless you count the couple of INT punts he throws up to the D. Do I want Chad Back? - No Did I want Brett in the first place? - No Am I rooting for the Jets (and Brett)? - Hell Yes But please don't fool yourself into believing that Brett's season can even compare to the season Chad is having.
Except when you look at the other side of it and see that Favre had 17 picks and Pennington 6, that Pennington has averaged 1 yard per attempt more than Favre and despite what you say, has more 20+ plays than Favre this year. Maybe it was the offense and not the QB all these years??????
At this point it doesn't matter what the media thinks anyway. The Jets, and Favre, have their destiny and the verdict on whether, for this year, the Favre trade was worth it, in their own hands. Win two with Favre playing well and everyone can say Favre took the Jets to the division title and the three seed. Lose one while Favre continues his recent subpar play and see the division go to the Pennington-led Fins or the Brady-less Pats and let the second guessing begin, legitimately I might add.
Who has more TDs? In 2 weeks, who has the better record? That tells me who has the better season. Fuck Chad and his tons of completions. He is not an elite QB
21 TD > 14 TD's. Also Favre had 4 20 yard pass plays LAST week. Favre has a better completion Percentage. Favre leading one of the highest scoring offenses in football. 7 More TD's and about 10 plus points more per game on average, is worth the price of the 11 extra INT's. The Jets problem (all season, except SD) hasn't been Favre. It's been the Defense.
actually as a 30 yr jet fan im much more at ease with the jets being the doormat in the nfl conversations, espcially years that we are not a doormat. i love hearing nfl experts pick the other team only to have them 'red faced' hours later. the only part the sickens me is how fast this poria type jump on 'our' band wagon the second we win a few games, like they've loved us all along. the only revolving door used more than our 2007 offensive line is the turn style on the back of the jets' band wagon. im surprised the bearings haven't worn out yet.
Actually if you factor in Defensive and Special Team Td's , and the Long Leon Washington Td's that had nothing to do with Brett the scoring difference is not quite as large. And no I do not think 11 extra interceptions is worth 7 more TD passes. Bottom Line 2008 Chad > 2008 Brett -- and it is not even close I never said the Jets problem was Brett, But this season is proof positive that the problem in the past was not Chad either. Call me Chad lover or whatever. I have been a diehard Jetfan since 1975 and deep down I would love for Chad to stick it to us in week 17 for the classless fans that booed his injury last year and the fcking joke of a FO we have that let him go to a divisional rival.
first off they let chad go where he wants to.. they werent going to hold him up for a 7th round pick.. and R U FUCKEN TELLING ME YOU THOUGHT THE 1-15 DOLPHINS COULD WIN 11 GAMES????
Yeah, about 50 points the Jets have scored have come off of defensive TD's and special teams. I know we've had five defensive TD's and I think a couple of ST TD's.
I won't lie and say I predicted 11 wins for Miami but I will tell you the day Miami signed Chad I knew that it would come to bite us in the ass. The Jets could have gotten a deal for Chad that could have been based on performance and got up to possibly a fourth. Or better yet they could have forgone the whole stupid Brett Favre thing altogether. It doesn't really matter becuase after the Jets lose today and Miami, NE win our season will be effectively over.
Don't forget that Miami is winning a lot of those games that sometimes skew their "goodness". A different play here and there, and they could be closer to .500. Like in baseball, every team is going to win and lose 60 games, its just a matter of what you do with the other 42.
I happen to generally agree with you about the seasons Favre and Pennington are having - IMO there is no way Favre deserves to be in the Pro Bowl, and lauding Favre's TD passes while dismissing his INTs doesn't seem too sensible to me. I sure don't agree with you, however, on a whole lot of your complaints. This has been Pennington's best year since 2002, and it's not even close, and I don't believe anyone who says they could see it coming (or that the front office should have seen it coming). If he had shown even a glimpse of this kind of play during training camp the Jets probably wouldn't have made the trade, but the fact is that he didn't. It appears that he is finally healthy, and it is hardly the front office's fault that after 5 years of him not being healthy they didn't see that coming. You can say they shouldn't have made the trade for Favre, but once they did they had to clear salary cap space within 24 hours, which means that it was impossible to trade Pennington; blaming the front office for that is also unreasonable. He has also benefited from not playing in a single cold-weather game until this week. Even given that he has played well this year, no one would even be mentioning him if not for the combination of a great defense and easy schedule - down the stretch (in the last 5 games), they've won 4 games with him averaging about 170 passing yards and 16 points scored in those games, hardly impressive numbers. What I would certainly never agree with is you rooting for the Jets to lose to the Dolphins to stick it to fans who behaved in a way you didn't like, and dismissively saying that the Jets will lose today (and apparently being happy about that too). I am a Jets fan, which means I root for them - the thought of hoping something I don't want to happen does happen so that other people will be unhappy strikes me as more than a little bizarre. Further, as Jerry Seinfeld put it, I root for laundry (or, to put it another way, I root for the name on the side of the helmet, not on the back of the jersey), and to be rooting for an ex-member of the team to beat them with the postseason on the line is something I would NEVER do.
