I'm a bit pissed with all this talk this week about how the the Clots gave up the game to us. We will never know how that game would have panned out with Manning in the game but I believe we would have showed our stuff with the season on the line, I gotta believe we would have come through and we are still a real animal on D. Ok- Lets talk Bengals. Do the Bengals rest their starters? Lets break it down. If the Jets win on Sunday they will almost certainly be travelling to Cinci next week for a rematch. Why risk injury against the Jets. NY are perceived to be the poorest team (wrongly in my view) still in the shake up for the PO's. If I'm Marv I'm thinking "these Jets are killers if they get past our line, we can't live without Palmer. Lets rest him." If the Bengals rest their starters they won't be showing their hand for the play off game. I expect them to show some vanilla stuff and try and read a hungry Jets team for the following week. This is my biggest reason as to why it would be folly for the Bengals to risk starting their starters: If they field a full team and the Jets stuff them it would almost certainly give the physcological edge to the Jets; better lose and let them think they are better than us with our back ups than risk losing everything. This is all very much speculation but if we win Sunday, Jets are in a real win win situation. If we lose....................
yea i think the bengals definitely want to play us next week (playoff week). Theyll go vanilla and well go all out, being more exposed. Not only that but if they rest their starters that works out nicely for them if its a saturday game.
If they go vanilla, we shouldn't have to go all out to beat them. We're not that bad, nor are their back-ups that good.
why would we hold ANYTHING back? if we lose we're done, so why not put everything into beating them? holding back your game plan doesn't help you if you're using it at home on madden the next week
he is saying we shouldn't need to run much more than basic plays to win the game if their starters are sitting. why would we we expose any more of the playbook than we need to? even if cincy plays their guys for a chunk of the game i wouldn't expect to see anything crazy from them either. they will run a base defense and some of the core offensive plays no wanting us to see anything that they think they can exploit in a game with no meaning for them.
Thanks for clarifying. If at any time the game appears to be slipping away from us I'd hope they'd open it up.
look....it's the LAST GAME of a 16 game season. Cincy will have NOTHING in the playoffs that they haven't run 100 times during the regurlar season. The Jets would be thrilled to stomp the Ravens even one time. Cincy stomped the Ravens twice this season. Their game plan against the Ravens is a blue print for their game plan against us in the playoffs (jet-ravens are the same fn team). Cincy will sit some of their starters. Jets will beat a determined, 'back up' Cincy team. Jets will beat a determined, 'starters only' Cincy team in the first round. 85 will be a Jet as soon as possible.
Unfortunately, I think the Ravens' defense matches up far more favorably against our offense than our D matches up with their O. The Ravens would be a very tough game to win, with or without Ed Reed.
That's not any better though I can understand playing like that after you have a lead, but until then the Jets need to use everything they have to get in the playoffs before they can start worrying about exposing the playbook
I still feel like we willy empty the playbook on them unless we are up drastically in the fourth. Better to go to the playoffs and lose first round then to lose and not make it with a better shot of winning round 1 if that makes sense.
not only do I agree with you, but while running more plays gives them more of an idea of what to expect, it doesn't necessarily mean we're going to lose, or even have the same gameplan for the next game
Losing Rey Maualuga is really going to hurt their run defense. I'm not happy that he's injured, but this is good for our offense.
i think this conversation is pretty pointless anyway. we run the ball right up the middle, there are only so many ways to run an off tackle play. i doubt we see anything from schotty's bag of tricks that we haven't already seen this year. that's probably a good thing though. and its possible to give it everything they have without using every play in the playbook.