Bengals fans in an uproar-scared to death

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  1. patleahy

    patleahy Well-Known Member

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    that WE are going to draft Sewell at # 2!!! lol I think they might be just as pissed as some on this board are, that we actually won that game. They are petrified that with Fields' stock dropping like a lead weight, that JD decides to fortify our line by drafting Sewell, whom they have had their hearts set on for the past several months, just like many Jets fans had their hearts set on TL. lol. Domino effect I guess.
     
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  2. NYJFOREVER

    NYJFOREVER Well-Known Member

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    The Jets are taking a QB whether they are at 1 or 2.

    Sam Darnold is the second worst starting QB in the league, edging out Dwayne Haskins. and that isn't saying much. QB is the weakest position on the Jets roster without any doubt.
     
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    JetFanInPA Well-Known Member

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    Let's hear your best trade-up offer, Cincy ! :)
     
  4. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    Yeah it's ideal that they think we love Sewell. I'll be really happy if we can swap picks with them in exchange for a 3rd rounder or similar. Also agree with NYJFOREVER that we're taking a QB. I can't imagine how checked out the fanbase is going to be if we send Darnold out there for another season, especially after missing out on TL in heartbreaking fashion.
     
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  5. WoodyHarrelson

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    We have to take Zac Wilson. Or trade the pick. RT is not even the second most important position on the OL
     
  6. patleahy

    patleahy Well-Known Member

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    Ideally we force the Benglas hands, woody harrelson, but convincing them that we are going to take sewell!!! haha
     
  7. deviljets7

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    I'd love to be able to squeeze something out of the Bengals to go down from 2 to 3. I don't think you can get quite the bounty the 49ers got when the Bears traded up from 3 to 2 for Trubisky (2 3rd rounders and a 4th), but if you can extract say a 3rd and a 5th from the Bengals, I'd happily do it.
     
  8. Br4d

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    I doubt a QB on the #2.

    Maybe a trade down and then a QB somewhere but good management teams do not waste a #2 pick. You need to get an All-Pro caliber player there and none of the QB's after Lawrence has that pedigree.

    If the Jets exercise the #2 pick I expect it will be Sewell or the best of the WR's. I do not expect the Jets to exercise the pick. I expect that they will trade down and maybe take a QB later in the 1st round. I think the Seahawks pick or the #33 might very well be where Joe Douglas makes his stand at QB. Recently that type of sniping pick at the end of the 1st round or beginning of the 2nd has been very productive.

    2020 - Jordan Love #26 (getting the Aaron Rodgers treatment.)
    2018 - Lamar Jackson #32
    2016 - Paxton Lynch #26
    2014 - Teddy Bridgewater #32, Derek Carr on pick #36, 4 picks into the 2nd round.
    2011 - Andy Dalton on pick #35, 3 picks into the 2nd, Colin Kaepernick on pick #36, 4 picks in - blacklisted for the kneel.
    2008 - Chad Henne #26
    2007 - Kevin Kolb #36
    2002 - Patrick Ramsey #32
    2001 - Drew Brees #32

    That's 11 picks in 20 years at the bottom of the 1st to the top of the 2nd and 6 of them have been at least decent QB's with Jordan Love unknown at this point. That frequency of "it worked out" is unrepeated anywhere except at the #1 pick overall. Of course the #1 pick overall tends to be a star and the guys picked bottom of the 1st/top of the 2nd tend to be just starting caliber players - Drew Brees and maybe Lamar Jackson being the obvious exceptions.
     
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  9. mrjet80

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    Yes and quite frankly they can have Sewell. I think the Jets would be wise to get Darnold his WR if they stay put and don’t take a QB. Becton is the LT and and the #2 pick is a little high to take a RT.
     
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    This may be an unpopular thought in lieu of what transpired with the Jets falling from the #1 pick with 2 games left but if the Jets are not going QB with #2 does JD possibly go EDGE? I’ve read that Gregory Rousseau is the real deal but I haven’t personally watched him. Maybe #2 is too high but a trade down with the Bengals perhaps, get an extra second round pick out of it?

    Just throwing that idea out there not saying it’s the right move. Thoughts ? The Jets have needed an EDGE guy for about 15 years now if he is the real deal.
     
  11. Hes not a pure edge.He does alot of his pass rushing damage lined up at the 3T in obv passing situations.Great player but would be more of what we already have w Q/Foley/Sheppard

    I dont have a probem w taking Sewell at 2.Great RTs are even harder to find than LTs.

    Still i think trading down trumps all. Then take Chase,Smith or Pitts.Address interior OL later on day 1 & early day 2.
     
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    OK that was my question if he’s more the 3T type then that’s adding to a strength so no dice to that.

    I think Chase would be a great pick but hopefully through a slight trade down assuming no QB.
     
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    You might be able to get that bounty if Ryan Pace is fired by the Bears and hired by the Bengals!! One of the all-time draft boner moves....trading a bounty to move up one spot to take one of the all-time busts at QB (in front of two future HOF QBs AND when the Niners had zero intention of drafting Trubisky to begin with. all-time draft BONER. Honestly, it is something that the Jets would have done, lol.
     
  14. Rousseau plays 7T & wide 9 on first & second down..dont wanna misinform you. He’ll get pressure lined up from that spot but hes most effective as a pass rusher when they kick him inside.

    Chase would pair really nicely w Mims & hopefully Crowder & if Crowder does leave he’d help soften that blow. Would be ectastic w that pick
     
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    Never EVER draft for "need".

    Always take the best player.

    It is amazing how good a QB looks when he has a wall in front of him and weapons galore.

    Keep reaching out of desperation and you will never hoist the Lombardi Trophy.
     
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    BPA at a position of need is the way to go. The BPA method resulted in the Jets drafting 5 IDL in 10 years.

    Now I ask, is OT a need? I don't think so. Becton is Becton and Fant has been solid for us; he is under contract for 2 more seasons. The problem with the offensive line are the guard spots. Taking Sewell with how many holes this roster has is a luxury pick.

    Now if you want to trade down and take a guy like Chase at 4 or 5, then I'm okay with that, but the weakest position on the Jets offense is QB, and they will have the choice of 2 very promising QBs at #2.
     
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    Chase & Mims with Godwin in FA will be weapons a plenty for any new QB.

    Could probably pair those weapons with any veteran QB while letting a guy like Lance sit and develop.
     
  18. deviljets7

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    It's all about creating the leverage if possible because let's be honest, if the Bears make that trade for Deshaun Watson (let alone Mahomes), no one says a thing about giving up a handful of mid-round picks. By that same token, if the Bengals truly believe he's the next Orlando Pace, Anthony Munoz, etc., do you risk losing him over a 3rd or 4th rounder? I don't think so.
     
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    I hate BPA tbh. I think it's one of the dumbest philosophies that GM's have and it's what resulted in us having so many first round DL's that we couldn't even use them all and had to trade some shortly after drafting them.

    For one thing, certain positions are WAY more important than others and BPA largely ignores this reality. I would literally rather have one top QB than 2 top anything else. I think offense is also inherently more important than defense in the modern NFL. CB and edge are very important on D, but I'd draft almost every position on offense before any other position on defense.

    BPA also forces your GM to be a good trading/FA GM because you're inevitably going to draft some people who don't fit on your team and need to be traded. BPA also forces you to inevitably run into scenarios where you have NOBODY serviceable at a position and need to overpay for someone in FA to fill the hole or it'll be a total dumpster fire. Both of these two situations recently afflicted us on the heels of Macaggnan the unmitigated disaster king of BPA.
     
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    NYJFOREVER Well-Known Member

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    BPA works when it's BPA at a position of need. If you have a lockdown CB and another solid #2, are you going to draft a CB in the first round because they're BPA? No.
     
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