If he wasn't a big disruptive force at LSU what makes you think he's suddenly going to find that when he has men across the line from him in the NFL and many of them knowing 10x what the young guys he was playing across from in the SEC know? Given his well-documented weakness against the run I think the Maybin comparisons are right on the mark. I wouldn't touch him in the 1st round.
When will people learn. Great athletes aren't always great football players. He has shown to take plays off, and lacks focus at times. Mingo and his teamamte(SM) have admitted taking plays off and betting large sums of cash on stupid acts...immature players I want no part of..I'll pass. Mingo's problem isn't his freakish athletic ability, it's the junk located between his ears. I've said this too many times to count.."KEVIN MINTER IS LSU'S BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER".
And his freakish athletic ability doesn't mean much if he can't turn it into numbers on the football field, which so far he hasn't. Dion Jordan is a special case. He does things that most DE's are never asked to do and so it creates a different set of numbers for him than you'd normally be looking for. Barkevious Mingo on the other hand can't even do some of the things that an OLB is supposed to do, like defend well against the run.
That's part of his problem, but the bigger picture is his mental makeup to not be the best player he can be....lack of dedication. Wasted talent and some of you guys want to draft him at #9....wake up people.
Don't understand how people think he can be more productive in the NFL than NCAA. Most of the games I've seen, he's constantly trying to rush the QB & doesn't even have contain responsibilities when he's coming off the edge. Despite having no other responsibilities he still wasn't productive. Even if he was there in the 2nd or 3rd round, I'd pass. Hopefully, Buffalo/Miami/New England buys into the hype & uses a 1st rounder on him.
I've wavered alittle bit on him after I went back & watched some of his Sophomore tape. Now he didn't have a great Junior year in terms of production but neither did that entire LSU team. It's almost similar to Coples at UNC his senior year. While he wasn't productive..he was VERY disruptive.Quite often occupying more than 1 blocker & causing the QB to step up. His body type does scare you a bit but you can't deny his first step,burst & the long arms. I think he's a superior prospect to when Maybin came out...he just isn't a sure thing nor worthy of a top 10 pick
I don't agree, but we can agree to disagree. What I see is a player who is a good read and react player. I have not seen him take a playoff on the limited film (youtube) that I have seen, in fact I have watched him chase down plays unlike Werner/Moore. He played on a very strong defense, and still demanded double teams. He needs to improve against the run, and bulk up. However, many plays I see him stand up a tackle and hold contain. IMO, the difference between him and Maybin (addressing other posts) is that Maybin was purely a pass rusher. Maybin was lost in coverage, and weak against the run. For the record, I was completely against Mingo prior to the combine. I watched his drills, and saw something that made me watch his tape more intently. Also, I would love to have Minter on the NY Jets, but is a wasted pick this year. IMO
Great looking athlete, too raw when it comes to technique. Reminds me of someone else the Jets once draft. Goes by the name of Vernon Gholston.
Slow down with the bust talk if he hasn't even gotten into the NFL yet. I'm not saying that he isn't going to be a bust, but your a little ahead of the pack on this one.
You may have been around, or just joined when the Gholston love was all over this forum. I warned people a player that is great in their underwear at the Combine, doesn't always translate to the field. Almost everyone was drooling over Gholston and I mentioned to all to take a step back. Great Football players can do well at the Combine and during game time. Great athletes, who aren't football players, do well at the Combine too. Bottom line, I don't want a player that doesn't play 100% and has shown to be inconsisitent...Mingo's 2012's season wasn't a mirage. BTW, I never suggested Minter should be a Jet, he's just better Football player than his teammates...the M&M boys.
When a player is not great in college there's no reason to assume he'll be great in the pros. There's literally no argument for spending a 1st round pick on somebody solely due to their potential, because their potential isn't going to win a single game for you on the field. The only thing that is going to win games for you is their play and if you haven't seen their play at a level that will do that by the time they leave college the odds are high you won't see it in the NFL. Mingo is one of those guys who'd be a good 3rd round pick. That's the point where if you get his ceiling you made out like bandits but if you just get what he's shown so far you're probably ok also.
I've noticed that I'm higher on Mingo than most on this board. My ranking of the OLB-prospects: 1. Mingo 2. Moore 3. Jordan Mingo has great speed obviously, I think his strength is underrated and I love his aggressiveness. Moore isn't as athletic as the other two, but he has the best production, the longest arms and the youngest age. Jordan has tons of upside and I think he can be a great Leo if Jaguars pick him. I don't see him as successful in Rex Ryan's defense though. He lacks pass-rush moves and more importantly, he's contact-shy. Rex has already shipped a once All Pro safety to the desert because he was contact-shy.
