Article: What’s Sad Is, Rex Can’t Win No Matter What He Does

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  1. fozzi58

    fozzi58 Well-Known Member

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    Another article written by one of the few reporters with no agenda except....good reporting. This article is obviously written to in response to the trash that Cimini put out over the weekend. (See Thread: http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=78211).

    This isn't the first time Capellini has got to bat for the team, but I've read articles where he's trashed the Jets as well - but with the evidence to back it up instead of spinning bullshit out of thin air. I've been supporting & promoting Jeff Capellini for a a year+ but this article is practically a direct response to the shit Cimini and Mehta have been putting out. I applaud you GLJ.

    Gratuitous Linky: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/07/29/green-lantern-whats-sad-is-rex-cant-win-no-matter-what-he-does/

     
  2. Mayhem

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    Great article. It takes balls to write something that opposes the trend du joir. I'm going to start following this guy.
     
  3. jetsclaps

    jetsclaps Well-Known Member

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    Holy. Shit.

    An intelligent, well written article on Rex amd the Jets.
     
  4. Ted

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    Honestly,did anyone need the media to decipher Idzik's comments and what they meant? As soon as I heard him say it my first thought was Rex is a lame duck coach. Idzik would have been better off saying it would be a collaborative effort rather than injecting himself into the decision.
     
  5. Hobbes3259

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    Dude, get a grip. Rex has been the most productive head coach, with mo offense in the last 4 years.

    Rex also is the guy with Woodys ear.

    Idzik, to give him credit, seems to know exactly where the problems lie. He brought in Marty,ivory, and Goodson. Not Flynn or Kolb. Then After letting Rex grab more blue chip talent, at 9 and 13....he hits a walk off homer, byhavingGeno fall into his lap.


    Rex has one losing season.And one more AFCCG appearances than losing seasons.... And two years left on his contract Lame duck?

    OK...thats media created bullshit.

    You cant have it both ways. If Sanchez sux and rode a top flight D to those AFCCGs, how do you cut that coach loose.
     
  6. RevisIsland18

    RevisIsland18 Well-Known Member

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    great article...i hope this write doesn't turn into the writer he's describing
     
  7. Ted

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    Do you really believe that anything short of a .500 season that Rex will be back? I don't. Retaining a coach when there us a GM change is unusual and Idzik likely won't give Rex much room for error.
     
  8. BacktoQueens

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    Idzik's approach from day 1 was cautious and thorough in regards to strategic team decisions.
    Those decisions had input from many around the organization.
    See Revis, the Draft, and the FA process.

    The long term direction of the QB position is no different.
    There is the possibility that Geno Smith will be a Jet long after Rex, so how he's handled this year is a team decision.

    My only problem here is that if Idzik is thinking 2014, while Rex is put into the position of 2013 or bust, the concepts don't mesh well.
    They should be assuring Rex off the record that he will be here in 2014 barring a disasterous season.
    They kept Rex on for the rebuild. Firing him at the end of rebuild year 1 would make no sense, unless the team completely folds underneath him.
     
  9. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    Looks like the early days of Manish Mehta.

    That said:

    1. With Sparano at OC, Sanchez at QB, and absolutely no talent at offensive skill position, this team still managed to get 6 wins. Whose achievement was that? Sparano and Sanchez can't suck and be responsible for wins at the same time now, can they?

    2. With Mornhinweg at OC, with better QB play, is it likely this team will get less than 6 wins this season? Sure, they lose Revis, but they also got Milliner as a replacement AND Richardson for the frontal pressure. Gone are the old and slow, They were mostly replaced by young, fast and hungry players. Can this defense do less than what they did last year? That is not likely either.

    3. So is Rex going to be a lame duck? In your dreams, son. In your dreams.
     
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    It's really not that unusual. I don't believe the Steelers have ever changed HC and GM at the same time.

    Retaining a guy for a rebuild, then firing him promptly after say 8-8 or 7-9 record with a rookie QB would make no sense.
    They'd disrupt the QB's development (as MM and Lee would likely be gone too), as well as disrupt a very distinct defense that has been at the top ranks of the league for 4 years.
    If that was the thought process, they'd have been better off hiring a new HC this year.

    I think how the team plays, and how hard they fight if/when they fall out of playoff contention, will determine more than record this year.

    If Idzik has in his head playoffs or fired already, i'll lose a lot of respect for him. Doesn't seem like that type of egomaniac who needs to make his own personal mark though.
     
  11. Braylon4ever

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    Ted, Rex has two years remaining on his deal, not one.

    He will be back regardless so I don't know what you're talking about....
     
  12. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Rex is the man for the job - always did from the get-go. As long as we see some improvement on the defensive line and other areas Rex should remain the HC for the foreseeable future. Those days when we had Mangini and Herm are a long time ago and I don't want to go back to those days.
     
  13. Ted

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    Very valid points. It's hard to say how much input and from where it comes goes into decisions. I think Revis was solely an Idzik decision and I thought it was the right one. I have a hard time believing Rex would be on board with that.

    The Steelers are a different animal. Only 3 head coaches over the last 40 years is a remarkable reflection of how well that franchise is run.

    I believe Woody loves Rex but will Woody be willing to overlook back to back losing seasons (if that is what happens)?

    Again, Idzik making that announcement that he will be involved in that decision speaks volumes. There was another GM (can't remember who) that was asked that question that same day who said that decision was for the coaching staff to make. Whether or not that GM does insert his input, that was the correct response.
     
  14. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Nice post Fozzi.

    Guy deserves kudos. When I see the Station manager (he lives across the street, and walks every evening) i'm going to grab his ear and talk this guy up.
     
  15. Ted

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    Having two years left on his contract guarantees nothing. The Jets would be responsible to pay off the last season unless Rex gets another job. Unlike Rob, Rex will get hired by someone almost immediately. He is an excellent DC.
     
  16. Hobbes3259

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    I know you despise Sanchez, but point 1, is why the Jets went Milliner,Richardson, not richardson,QB. Theycould have had Honey Badger later in the draft, to play slot. Leaving Wilson and Cro.

    They dumped Sparano, got two RBs, and Gave Rex the two Blue Chip prospects.

    As to point 2... This team will have 3 wins by week four, maybe 4. My take, is 11.

    Point 3...rex is getting extended,
     
  17. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    He's also growing as a HC. 33-29 record as a Jets HC with 4 post-season wins. One losing season with the majority of your players hurt does not warrant a firing. Players (offensively and defensively) believe in Rex - he has not lost the team and is slowly maturing.

    No reason to fire Rex unless he goes 1-15.

    Shouldn't you worry about when the Dolphins are going to win that illustrious playoff win anyway?
     
  18. JetsVilma28

    JetsVilma28 Well-Known Member

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    :up: :up:

    Truth.

    Rex, is maturing too. Feed this media nothing or at least as little as possible.
     
  19. Acad23

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    If we go 4-0 the media will go nuts.

    So will us Jet fans...shit, if we go 2-0 everyone will go nuts.

    I see 1-3.

    But I'd love to be wrong.
     
  20. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    I believe Rex hasn't changed one bit when it comes to his players. He has only changed in front of the media.

    That is the maturation change.
     

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