Armchair GM'ing

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  1. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    Just hypothetical, and not sure if it's even possible cap wise, but hey you can dream, right?

    How would everyone feel if we signed Leftwich to back up Clemens/Ratliff, then threw the kitchen sink at Haynesworth, and those were our only FA signings?

    Then we make a draft day deal to grab a few more picks by dealing Baker Coles, and Ellis.We can then either use those picks to grab a S, and a NT to groom to eventually replace Jenkins, while also adding depth at other positions of need.

    or, we could package some of those extra picks, and move up in the draft and grab one of the QB's(which i don't think we need), or go for Crabtree.

    I'd also like to see us get rid of Bryan Thomas, but that seems doubtful due to his contract.

    Crazy? Probably. But hey, it's the off season and i'm bored as hell.

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. The Grim Revis

    The Grim Revis New Member

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    Doesn't address our huge holes at CB, LB, and Safety.

    We'd be better off going with Greer/McFadden and either Bart Scott or Jim Leohnard.
     
  3. Hemi

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    Why do we need another DT?

    In the 3-4 you only start one. Are you planning on him starting at DE?
     
  4. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    yeah. Not a good idea?
     
  5. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    I'm counting on Lowrey at CB, a S through the draft, and Gholston coming on at LB.
     
  6. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Great post, but it only took one more post for some nitwit to mention CB...
    Can we dispense with the annual "We need a CB" crap"

    We have two very good CB's in Revis and Lowery. Lowery was a rookie, and will be better this year than last....

    You cant tie up high end cap dollars that far from the ball.

    You make your corners better, by generating pass rush.Our defensive weakness is not the secondary it's the front 7.

    Beyond that It's speed on the perimeter. We have not a had a number one receiver for years now.
     
  7. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    It'd be nice if we declared a moratorium on free agents for a year and locked up a few of the guys we'd like to have around for awhile instead. It's also worthwhile to note that if one of Clemens, Ratliff and Ainge works out in spades we're going to need to be able to lock them up to an approriate QB contract in a year or two, so buying high-priced talent elsewhere is not so good an idea right now. If none of them work out we'll have to either draft a QB high or sign a good free agent QB and again the price tag will be high. Favre's cap space is QB cap space, not NT cap space or CB cap sapce or anything else.
     
  8. hazmat

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    They definitely have to upgrade the secondary. They need established nfl players to play along with Revis, Rhodes and Lowery. They don't need to sign big time free agents just a safety like Leonhard and one established corner. Revis, Rhodes and Lowery will reach their true potential with Ryan but you have to at a minimum have 3 corners and 2 safeties that can tackle and play in the scheme. Elam and Smith are both horrible in coverage. Elam has some value but not as a starting safety. Barrett is gone, Law will not be brought back, Drew Coleman is terrible, Poteat is a jag and Carroll is a special teams player.

    If the Jets can fill the secondary with moderate signings I feel they can take the bpa in the draft.
     
  9. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The Jet's don't need to upgrade the secondary, they need to find an effective pass rush. You could play Jerrico Cotchery and Laveranues Coles in the secondary and get by if you had the pass rush to force QB's to throw the ball before they wanted too. You could play Darrelle Revis and Champ Bailey back there and fail if the QB got 5 to 6 seconds on every pass to make up their minds where to throw the ball.

    The Jet's failures in pass protection over the last couple of years are not related to who they have in the secondary.
     
  10. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    right on!!!!!
     
  11. nyjcanada

    nyjcanada Active Member

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    how do you see lowery as being 'very good'
     
  12. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    i'll defend him....

    5 forced fumbles for a CB is a lot, his passes defended was high too.....


    he did get beat a lot, but thats a combination of a qB having 6 seconds to throw and him being a rookie..... I think in certain defensive packages he can be a safety and make plays there. But i'd like a true SS next to Rhodes.

    in terms of potential - very good
    in terms of last year - marginal.

    my .02
     
  13. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    where has your logic been, sir?

    good to see you back.
     
  14. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    also consider the revis factor:that is their not throwing his way so lowery gets targeted early and often
     
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    Ok, first off Haynesworth is a DT. Won't work in our D. He is to slow to convert to a DE. The scenario I would like to see is stick with our "guns " at QB. May the best man win. Only look seriously at FA's that will have an immediate positive impact. Then posiibly explore trading some overpriced talent to clear cap and gain some late round picks. These things will both help us build for the future and for next season. The general consensus is thet we will be a run heavy offense next year, this further proves my point that our current group of QB's will be sufficient. A WR that can make a significant contribution next year and possibly be a #1 in the next 3 years should also be a priority.
     
  16. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    Good points.
    I'm all for keeping who we have at QB, but adding Letfwich to have that veteran insurance policy.
    I'm foaming at the mouth for Crabtree. I'd love deal a few of our "overpriced talents", as you say, and hit a homerun with him.
    Crabtree, Clowney,Cotchery, and Stuckey sounds awesome to me!!!
     
  17. Quack

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    Even if Crabtree came here, people forget about Smith. He had some dropsies early on (as well as some huge plays), but nothing like McCareins and people need to look at how he has been developing as a receiver, which has been pretty well (even if he hasn't been getting used). Smith can be a deadly slot receiver. He isn't a burner like Clowney but he has the speed and has ridiculous skills after the catch. Crabtree - Cotchery - Smith - Clowney/Stuckey would be one hell of a fuggin' receiving corps. Add in Keller with Leon and TJ (though drafting a power back for the future would be a good idea, getting Shonn Greene somehow would be cool as hell) and you've got a sick offense, with a line that can maul defenses and keep the ground game going and a threatening passing game.

    It would be like the mid 90's Broncos without Elway (when he went down to injuries) in that it wouldn't matter who is in the driver's seat because it is an unstoppable machine. I mean, I always had a high opinion of Bubby Brister, but when the backup comes in and the offense doesn't just play as well but plays better than it did with John Elway, you know that's one hell of an offense (and that the other players are most likely stepping up in the clutch).
     
  18. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    your post was good with the single lapse of a punter. christ.
     
  19. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    its tough to get rid of overpriced talents when other GMs know that they are just that, and those GMs will not take on those contracts.
     
  20. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    I know. It sucks that Matt Millen isn't still around.:drunk:
     

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