Taken from today's daily news... While I know some of you guys absolutely hate Cimini, this time I actually saw it happening and I think Cimini is spot on. Too bad Mangini can't admit it. I'm wondering if Mangini will EVER admit to ANYTHING negative about his team..
There were times in that game where the Giants were baiting Pennington into changing calls and than they were moving into a different look right before the snap. They weren't just reading our plays they were making Pennington call plays they wanted us to run.
One play stood out, a Giant LB was close to the line of scrimmage, CP audibles the play to a run off right tackle, the Giants LB changes the defense to the exact spot where the run was going. I did not think anything of it... This team has so many issues, a large portion of the blame lies with the CS. When the media is done with CP, they are going to come after Mangini hard. I know he preaches consistency, but when you are consistently bad, then your methodologies are not working, time to change things up, you are 1-4 and sinking fast.
They're brilliant for knowing the plays we were going to run and defending against them? For phucks sake – I was calling out the plays from a god damn bar in Tampa…big deal.
I saw this on one particular run that Chad had audibled to. The linebackers moved ALL of the DL to the left...right where we ended up running the ball to.
Remember kiddies if TJ is 8 yards from the LoS, 96% of the time, the Jets run. Like I have been saying blame the damn CS, nothing the Jets do surprise anyone, no new wrinkles, same offense, same defense. It worked last year because it was new, this year people know what they Jets are doing. CP just needs to run the play and stop wasting his breath adjusting it.
H'mmm the announcers last Sunday showed a formation that we use as a running formation. They said they had tracked it & the numbers were really high run over pass. Sure enough when we used that formation after it was ponted out by the announcers & viola they ran a run from that formation they showed
Not to mention that 68 out of 71 two back sets this year have been runs. Now, if you're doing film work all week on the jets and you see a two back set, what kind of play are you expecting? That's a gimme for any defense.
Reality is if we had the horses and could execute, it wouldn't matter if they knew what was coming. Scheme only really matters when your out manned.
Well, Jones' numbers aren't his fault, and yeah the offense is totally predictable...that's a huge reason for the INTs, but if Chad is truly given flexibility with the play calling and can make changes in the huddle, then he is partially responsible too. To Chad's dredit, he tried to go deep early to Jerricho, but he should have done it more.
Jet offense lurches into predictability .. great article Jet offense lurches into predictability BY RICH CIMINI DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER Tuesday, October 9th 2007, 4:00 AM The Jets have problems on offense, starting with a potential quarterback controversy and a $5 million-a-year running back who is producing Barlow-esque numbers. But, wait, it gets worse. Now people are suggesting the Jets' offense, hailed last season for its innovative approach, is predictable. At least that was the postgame buzz Sunday from the Giants' locker room, prompting a roll-of-the-eyes response yesterday from Eric Mangini. "I know that, usually after you win a game, you have a lot of great keys and great things that you did," Mangini said sarcastically. "Pretty typical. You know where they're running and throwing and you know everything." After the Giants' 35-24 victory, linebacker Antonio Pierce and cornerback Sam Madison said they were able to figure out some of the Jets' plays. Have they been attending the Bill Belichick film school? Madison, who made the first of Big Blue's three interceptions, said the Giants' defensive backs jumped pass routes because of Chad Pennington's suspect arm strength. Pierce said he deciphered some of Pennington's verbal signals in no-huddle situations, which allowed him to adjust the defense. It worked. And the Jets knew it was happening. "He didn't do it throughout the entire game, but the couple of times he did it, they were good plays," wide receiver Jerricho Cotchery said, smiling. "We switched it up, but there were a couple of times when I did notice it. He knew where we were going." The most glaring example came in the second quarter, when Justin Tuck dropped Leon Washington for a 5-yard loss. Moments before the snap, Pierce, apparently recognizing a signal from Pennington, told Tuck to slide to his left. Sure enough, he was in perfect position to make the play. Once again, Mangini responded with sarcasm, explaining the offense changes its calls (and dummy calls) so often that sometimes he gets confused on the practice field. "So if it's changing enough to where I could be potentially fooled, I'd like to think that ... but maybe he's got a better bead on it than I do," Mangini said. On the next play, after Tuck's tackle, Madison seemed to know exactly where Pennington was throwing. He vacated his zone in the left flat and made a beeline toward the middle of the field, stepping in front of Cotchery for an interception. It was an uncanny play by Madison (too uncanny?), who said he attacked the route because Pennington throws a "light ball." This isn't high-tech espionage - it's not another SpyGate - but this small sample shows that opponents might be hip to the Jets' tendencies. That may explain why the running game is virtually nonexistent. Thomas Jones, who was supposed to be the cure for the ailing ground game, has rushed for only 290 yards and a 3.3 per-carry average, slightly better than Kevan Barlow's historically bad 2.7 mark from last season. "(The Giants) did a good job of figuring out what we were doing with formations and things like that," said Jones, who managed only 36 yards on 13 carries. Indeed, the Jets were predictable. When Jones and fullback Darian Barnes were paired in the same backfield, it usually meant a running play. (Eight of Jones' 13 runs came in a two-back set.) CBS analyst Randy Cross said during the telecast that, in the first four games, the Jets ran on 68 out of the 71 plays in which the back lined up eight yards deep. A year ago, coordinator Brian Schottenheimer did wonders with the offense, confusing opponents with his clever play-calling and myriad formations. The Jets were successful with a couple of gadget runs early in Sunday's game, but they finished with only 55 yards on the ground. Asked to explain the problems, Jones said, "We've had some miscommunications on a lot of different plays." Evidently, the Giants had no problem intercepting the Jets' communications - and Pennington. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f..._jet_offense_lurches_into_predictability.html He nailed everything I was thinking!
There is always excuses or issues why we don't do what we need to do. Damn this shit is getting old..
sorry for the repost guys.... didn't see the first one... http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=25838
i guess this means schotts is not going to be leaving us for a different coaching job and a pay raise?
