article: http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/20...suspended-for-a-half-for-attempted-eye-gouge/ [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDOy-RMIpF0[/YOUTUBE] For what Miami once was, Florida has become a program full of thugs. They've had about half their roster arrested over the past couple years, and have players like this as captains. It really is embarrassing that no one will ever hear anything about how the program brushes all of this under the rug. Only half a game for eye gouging a kid in plain sight? Seriously? I don't care if it happens in ever pile, you get caught, you do time.
This happens in just about every pile...Spikes just got caught. I agree he should get suspended because it's definitely a dirty play, but a lot of players eye gauge in the pile.
That's true, and it's fine for you and I to say, but I think it's a joke for even the team's coach to complain about having to punish him. If someone gets caught gouging another players eye, they deserve every bit of punishment they get, and it seems like even golden boy Tebow is trying to get him off the hook.
That doesn't make it okay. A lot of people exceed the speed limit when they drive. When you get caught, you still get a ticket. (I know you said he should be suspended, but it's irrelevant whether or not that happens in every pile. Makes no difference if it happens every time in every pile or if it never occurs at all. He did, got caught, and should pay the price.)
Meh. Since that brawl, Florida has had 20+ ( I want to say 24) football players arrested. Thats more than FSU and UM combined.
If you're saying that Miami is below Florida in any way when it comes to character, that's downright wrong. Miami had the brawl, yes, but at least that was an on-field incident created by some pretty high tension between two teams, as opposed to 24 players being arrested/charged in the past 4 years for the Gators since Meyer took over. JANORIS JENKINS Charge: Misdemeanor affray and resisting arrest without violence for his role in a May 30, 2009 fight outside a downtown Gainesville night club. Outcome: The State Attorneys Office is currently investigating. Team punishment: To be determined. MARQUIS HANNAH Charge: Felony burglary of an occupied dwelling unarmed and misdemeanor battery in late April 2009 for allegedly forcing his way into a Gainesville apartment and punching a man in the face. Outcome: Case was dismissed due to lack of evidence, according to lawyer Huntley Johnson. Team punishment: To be determined. CARL JOHNSON Charge: Misdemeanor violation of a sexual restraining order in February 2009 after getting on the same campus bus as an ex-girlfriend. The woman previously filed a petition claiming Johnson date-raped her on three occasions. Outcome: All charges were dropped due to a lack of evidence. Team punishment: Johnson never missed any time. Coach Urban Meyer said Johnson would remain on the team as long as the investigation checked out. RILEY COOPER Charge: Misdemeanor resisting an officer and failure comply with a police or fire department in February 2009. Campus police cited Cooper for not getting out of the way of a moving car upon polices orders, according to Johnson. Outcome: The case was dismissed. Team punishment: Cooper played baseball during the spring, and its unknown whether Meyer sought out punishment. CAM NEWTON Charge: Felony counts of burglary, larceny and obstruction of justice in November after allegedly stealing a laptop from a UF student and throwing it out his dormitory window upon police suspicion. Outcome: Newton received pre-trial deferment common for a first-time offender and is serving community service and probation time. The charges will disappear assuming he completes his obligations. Team punishment: Meyer suspended Newton for the rest of the 2008 season. Newton transferred to Blinn (Texas) Junior College. JACQUES RICKERSON Charge #1: Misdemeanor possession of marijuana in February 2007. Outcome: Charges were dropped without legal ramifications. Charge #2: Felony domestic violence by strangulation and felony obstruction of justice after a November 2008 altercation with a girlfriend. Outcome: Charges were reduced to misdemeanor status, then the Alachua County courts gave him two years probation without proceeding with the charges. Team punishments: Rickerson was suspended for the 2007 season opener for the marijuana charge, then kicked off the team the morning of the domestic violence incident. TORREY DAVIS Charge: Misdemeanor knowingly driving with a suspended license on numerous occasions, including once in July 2008 and another in March 2009 two weeks after he left the team that placed him in jail. Outcome: The July case was closed. Team punishment: Davis was always in Meyers doghouse and hardly allowed to practice or play with the team for various academic and disciplinary reasons, so its safe to say Meyer suspended Davis for his crimes. JAMAR HORNSBY Charge #1: Cited for misdemeanor property damage and criminal mischief in April 2007 for allegedly throwing a man onto the hood of a car during a fight. Outcome: Hornsby received deferred prosecution and the charge was later dismissed. Charge #2: Unauthorized use of a credit card to obtain goods and services, a felony, along with misdemeanor larceny of a credit card for allegedly making more than 70 fradulent charges on the gas credit card of a female UF student who died seven months earlier. Outcome: Charges were reduced to misdemeanors and Hornsby took a plea deal probation and community service. Team punishments: No punishment for first offense, kicked off the team for second offense. Hornsby served a previous five-game suspension, but it wasnt for the first misdemeanor it was for selling his complimentary tickets. JERMAINE CUNNINGHAM Charge: Misdemeanor battery in December 2007 for an altercation with a clerk at Jimmy Johns Gourmet Sandwich Shop in Gainesville. Cunningham allegedly threw paper cups at the clerk. Outcome: Charges were dropped. Team punishment: Cunningham played in Floridas next game, the Capital One Bowl, but Meyer said he imposed physical punishment on Cunningham, who also couldnt accept bowl-game gifts. TONY JOINER Charge: Felony theft in October 2007 for breaking into a car impound and retrieving his girlfriends car, which had been towed. Outcome: Charges were dropped. Team punishment: Joiner never missed game time, but Meyer stripped him of his captaincy. RONNIE WILSON Charge #1: Aggravated assault, battery and use of display of a concealed weapon during commission of a felony in April 2007 for shooting a semiautomatic rifle after a dispute with another man. Outcome: Wilson pleaded no contest to battery and discharging a firearm. The felony charge was reduced to a misdemeanor and later dropped. Wilson was placed on two years probation and given 100 hours of community service. Charge #2: Misdemeanor possession of marijuana in January 2008. Outcome: The charge was dropped despite serving probation for his original arrest. Charge #3: One count of battery and one count of assault for an altercation at an apartment complex in October. Outcome: Nothing has been ruled on the case, according to court records. Team punishments: Wilson was suspended for the entire 2007 season stemming from the gun charge, including a full-year suspension from University of Florida academics. Wilson rejoined the team in 2008 but was suspended and eventually kicked off after the third charge. DUSTIN DOE Charge: Misdemeanor affray and resisting arrest for his role in an April 2007 fight. Outcome: Charges were dropped. Team punishment: No suspension for Doe. DORIAN MUNROE Charge: Felony theft in May 2007 when he removed a University Police boot from his car and put it in his trunk. Outcome: Charges were dropped. Team punishment: No suspension for Munroe. JOHN CURTIS Charge: Misdemeanor violation of probation in May 2007 after failing to serve five hours of community service stemming from an alcohol citation. Outcome: Curtis complied with the violation, served probation and the case was dismissed. Team punishment: Curtis was in Meyers doghouse, but he was also injured, so it was difficult to tell why he was out. BRANDON JAMES Charge: Purchasing marijuana -- a felony -- along with misdemeanor possession of marijuana in June 2007. Outcome: The felony charge was dropped due to a minuscule amount (8 grams); James served probation and community service stemming from the misdemeanor charge. Team punishment: Suspended for one game, the 2007 opener against Western Kentucky. AVERY ATKINS Charge: Misdemeanor domestic battery in July 2006 after an altercation in Daytona Beach with the mother of his child. The initial investigation took place in June 2006 with Atkins facing accusations of felony false imprisonment along with the battery charge. Outcome: Atkins received pre-trial intervention and both cases were eventually dropped. Team punishment: Meyer immediately suspended Atkins, who then transferred to Bethune-Cookman, found legal trouble there and died in July 2007 from a drug overdose. LOUIS MURPHY Charge: Misdemeanor possession of marijuana in May 2006. Outcome: Charges were dropped, and Murphy had to perform 12.5 hours of community service. Team punishment: Murphy was suspended for three games during the 2006 season. JON DEMPS Charge: Misdemeanor driving with a suspended license in September 2006. Outcome: Charges were dropped and Demps received six months probation. Team punishment: Meyer kicked Demps off the team after the 2006 season reportedly for a marijuana-related incident. Demps worked out with the Gators later that summer but never played for UF again. DAWAYNE GRACE Charge #1: Misdemeanor charges of battery and theft in July 2005 stemming from a sworn complaint. Outcome: Charges were dropped because victim did not wish to prosecute. Charge #2: Misdemeanor violation of a city ordinance and disorderly conduct in October 2005 for his involvement in a fight. Eyewitnesses told police that Grace threw a punch. Outcome: Grace completed a deferred prosecution program including 7.5 hours of community service. Team punishment: Meyer suspended Grace indefinitely after the October arrest. Grace later transferred to Georgia Southern. Yeah, priceless is right.
Wow! Just goes to show that the media bias extends to issues other than politics. If the MSM was actually interested in reporting on truth in who the current thugs are in CFB, they'd be publicizing this as loudly as some of the "more important" issues of the day, such as the number of whores Tiger woods has slept with.
The Carl Johnson one has no place on that list, but damn, thats still a huge list. I forgot about a lot of these. You can't BLAME Meyer though for any of this, I'm sure he wouldn't have purposely recruited someone who he knew would get in fights or steal dead girls credit cards, it's unnecessary media. But I would rather have my players get misdemeanors for Marijuana possession rather than get in a HUGE fight or have a lot of flagrant dirty fouls (minus that spikes one)
Really? You'd really prefer 26 arrested players? And absolutely you can blame Meyer, look at the penalties for this stuff. He really doesn't care, he just wants wins. Hell, the man doesn't even care about his own survival, it's just winning to him.
No, id prefer 2 or 3 players getting misdemeanors for marijuana possession than on the field issues. Hell didn't randy moss get slapped with one of those? I don't think anyone remembers that anymore really. People remember the USF UM fight. Also. Look at that list, the ones who deserved to get suspended did. When charges were dropped, he didn't see a need to suspend them, did he talk to them? Of course, if they fucked up again they were gone.
Weird, its like people remember its UM more than anything. Sorry I named the wrong school at 12AM. My point was the last sentence. Look at it again and say if I'm wrong:up:
Charges get dropped in Gainesville if you play football. Everyone is either a Gator fan or Gator Alum... and no thats not some crazy conspiracy talk. UF is Gainesville. Everything there is based upon the University. You can absolutely blame Meyer. When you recruit, you take character into play. He meets with the players, their families, coaches. 26 players in his time, is a lot. He also HEAVILY recruited Nu'keese Richardson, who was a one-time gator commit. If you don't know, Nu'keese decommited from UF and went to UT. Where he was kicked off the team for his off the field behavior.
Weird, It seems like every serious crime that I would normally see prosecuted around here got prosecuted, and every 1st time offense that would normally get dropped around here got dropped. That being said, everyone in Gainesville is fucking crazy and I would never go to school or live there. My friends mom ran a Krystal's in there and she would tell me stories about how people would go in the store, shot, just to use the phone.
QFT. There's just NO defense for 26 players arrested in four years. I don't care what kind of BS Meyer throws out, about how a lot are just misdemeanors, or they are given proper suspensions. There is something wrong with a program, and a staff that allow this to happen. Something major had to be done a while ago to end this problem, yet Urban continues to do the absolute minimum.
Does anyone know if UF is number one in the country in the past 4 years? I don't know how to look that up. Urban does need to focus on a more strict program this year. He probably gave a bunch of teenagers trust, and...of course they fuck up, I'm pretty sure Urban rides these kids at practices for stuff like this, but he needs to nip the problem in the bud with more harsh penalties this year and more strict regiment, especially with the spotlight of this is gonna be too much this year for a team without Tebow and the Spikes incident last year. A couple of those arrests are bullshit, and you can tell they got dropped because they SHOULD have or were even false accusations, but some of them I agree, Urban does have to focus on this year, and I think he will. No need to call him out though. He's a hell of a football coach and recruiter, you gotta admit that. (Sorry if this sounds scattered, I just woke up)
