An RFA Primer

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  1. ........

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    I'm seeing a lot of suggestions for different RFAs on the board, and there seems to be some confusion as far as what the different tender amounts are and the compensation that goes along with them. You CANNOT simply tender any round draft pick on a player. There are very specific levels of tender, which have not changed this season. Only the number of accrued seasons qualifying for RFA have changed. Here's the list to clear up any confusion:

    So, when discussing an impending RFA, the starting point is to discuss that player's original draft position. In other words, if we were to give Leon Washington the minimum tender offer, a team signing him would be required to give us a 4th rounder. For UDFAs, this is essentially only granting right of first refusal. Because we're entering a season in which the UFA class will be severely diluted until first cuts, and because of the lack of a salary cap, I'd imagine most of the worthwhile RFAs are going to carry at least a 2nd round tender, and for most the price will be even higher.
     
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    I think it's pretty clear Braylon is getting a 1st and 3rd tender and Leon is getting a 1st rounder tender (although since it's an uncapped year I don't see the harm in being safe rather than sorry and tendering Leon with a 1st and 3rd)
     
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    TheCoolerGlennFoley Well-Known Member

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    I'd almost bait a team into signing him with just a 1st rounder.
     
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    Oh, I would absolutely bait a team with a first. I love Leon, but the uncertainty surrounding his injury would definitely make me think about letting someone poach him and using the pick to grab another RB in the first to pair with Greene for the next several years.
     
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    Why would someone want to pay a 1st rounder for Leon if we aren't even sure what he's worth? So how exactly would you tender an undrafted free agent?
     
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    Well...if you'd like a chance to keep him, you tender him at a 2nd rounder. Of course, offering the lowest tender still gives right of first refusal, so you technically still have a chance to match any offer that comes in. There's always that lovely poison pill contract, though.

    As far as why teams would pay Leon, you're giving far too much credit to team management for a lot of teams. Someone like Daniel Snyder could see the Pro Bowl appearance and take a shot at him. He's a strong believer in FA and hasn't exactly had the best success in the draft. He could view Leon as more of a sure thing.
     
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    So basically if we tried to sign a restricted free agent with the lowest tender who was also undrafted that player's team has the opportunity to match our monetary offer? Can that team also add a draft pick to the mix after our offer?

    Example:
    1) RFA UDFA gets the lowest tender
    2) We attempt to sign him
    3) RFA UDFA's team gets to do what?
     
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    The initial tender a team places on the player is the final tender, I believe. There is no bidding involved. When another team makes and offer to the player, his team can match it or collect the draft picks.
     
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    No. Players are tendered in advance of the RFA signing period. Once a tender is made, the compensation is locked in. If we attempt to sign a former UDFA who has been given the lowest tender, his current team ONLY has the option to match our offer. Like I said, putting a poison pill in the contract frequently makes that option untenable.

    There's also always the possibility of a trade, which could result in additional draft picks, like when Welker had a 2nd round tender and was traded to the Patriots for both a 2nd and a 7th rather than risk a matching offer. Again, the FA situation this season makes it highly unlikely that we see worthwhile former UDFAs receive less than a 2nd round tender.
     
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    Since the jets can pick up RFAs at will, what happens if a player is an RFA and does NOT get tendered at all ? Can the jets just pick him up ? Or does that player then become a UFA and the rules of us having to lose a similar paid player come into play ?
     
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    An RFA who becomes a UFA is subject to the rules of the Final 8 plan. We cannot sign him until we lose another player. I don't think we'll see many (if any) worthwhile players go that route.

    The only UFAs we're able to sign without restrictions are our own and those waived by a team. The latter is going to be interesting.
     
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    Speaking of Tenders, anyone been to the Tender Trap out in Huntington on Long Island. It's a a family-style seafood restaurant by day and an anything-goes, pan-sexual bazaar by night
     
  13. Jetfanmack

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    I'd tender both players at 1st round picks, but I think the Jets do want to keep Braylon Edwards, hope he's happy, hope he works hard, and hope that a year in the system and with Sanchez will yield huge dividends.

    A guy like Edwards, who wants a big contract, could view the lower tender as a bit of a slap in the face.

    Leon, on the other hand, doesn't have as sturdy a leg to stand on...
     
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    Is this board's general consensus now to tender Leon for a 1st and get rid of him for a pick?
     
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    flew right past the low-hanging fruit of chicken tender, eh?
     
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    I mean Leon is gonna be 28 when the season starts and just came off a very serious injury.

    Looking at the future of this team I would DEFINITELY prefer a 1st round pick. Assuming he recovers 100% hes got 4 years tops left.

    HBs dont age well
     
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    This is true I guess. I'm not for dumping the guy just yet though. I think Leon is a perfect compliment to the TJ/Greene style of run and gives Sanchez the screen option out of the backfield.

    The torn ligaments in his leg do scare me though
     
  18. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    i see what you did there.
     
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    No, I think the consensus is that it would be worthwhile to lose him for a 1st, but we'd obviously love to have him back. I'd be happy either way, although I'd prefer to see him in Green and White.
     
  20. WhiteShoeWillis

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    Good thread Iggy.
     

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