Alton Sterling

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  1. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    Yawn.
     
  2. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    As for the actual context of the thread - I don't see how anyone can watch that video and say the dead guy was pulling for a gun. I'm not going to make a judgement one way or another because we simply don't know what happened, but to say for sure one way or the other is just silly - unless I missed something.
     
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    FBI / DOJ:

    84% of white homicide victims were killed by other whites.

    93% of black homicide victims were killed by other blacks.

    45.3% of all homicides committed by whites while whites accounted for 50.3% of the victims of homicide. (-5% offender/victim ratio)

    52.5% of all homicides committed by blacks while blacks accounted for 47.4% of the victims of homicide. (+5.1% offender/victim ratio)

    2.2% of all homicides committed by other races while other races accounted for 2.3% of the victims of homicide. (-0.1% offender/victim ratio)

    No, I don't see it being 5 times higher. These numbers are much closer then 5x or whatever you pointed out.

    http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

    Homicide Trends in the United States, 1980-2008 Annual Rates for 2009 and 2010. Feel free to provide further context from the DoJ. Criticizing other races when you are doing the same thing pretty much ain't cool.
     
  4. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    selective reading at it's best :)

    The truth shall set you free!
     
  5. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    You aren't taking into account the number of people in the population. That's how you get the rate. There are a lot more white people than black people.

    If there are 100 white people and 10 black people and 1 white person kills 1 white person and 1 black person kills 1 black person, do you think that's the same rate? because it's not.
     
  6. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    Be sure to post stats about it when ya come across it.
     
  7. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    I think Black People take about 13% of the US population or so, but sociological factors / other factors I think need to play a bigger role in these #s.
     
  8. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I agree - I think it has a lot to do with level of income and where people live.
     
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  10. Ubiquitous

    Ubiquitous Well-Known Member

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  11. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Do we know how many of those were justified? Certainly no one wants to live in a police state, but we need some level of police, especially in areas of high crime.

    holy hyperbole batman

    It's hard to have rational conversation when you go right to insane claims like this one.
     
  12. Ubiquitous

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    You're way more likely to get killed by a police officer than blown up by a terrorist in this country. That was my point.
     
  13. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    You're also way more likely to drown in a pool, but that's as useless a point as the one you made.
     
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  14. Ubiquitous

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    Not really. Can you at least acknowledge we have a policing problem in this country? We see people murdered at the hands of trigger happy, vicious cops like last night in Baton Rouge way too often.
     
  15. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Can you acknowledge that we don't know what happened based on the video? If the guy was reaching for a gun the shooting was justified, wasn't it?
     
  16. JStokes

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    We live in a Gangland State, folks.

    Gang warfare is a far bigger threat to Americans than any terrorist organization.

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  17. JStokes

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    I have no idea what happened in that video and if you say you do, you're making shit up.

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  18. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Thankfully in this case we have body cameras on the cops. So if they straight murdered the guy they should go to prison and throw away the key.

    All cops should wear them.

    edit: crap - just read they fell off in the tussle. they also have survelience video from the convenient store.
     
  19. 101GangGreen101

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    Fixed. Easily 2 of the worst things happening in our Country. Killing children and the innocent bystanders.
     

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