AJ McCarron too good for the Senior Bowl

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  1. 101GangGreen101

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    Really bad move on his part. He was homing in on a 2nd round pick at this point. Now if he falls to the 4th people will be talking about the failure to show at the Senior Bowl as one of the reasons.

    No, it's not about how he'd do at the Senior Bowl. It's about him being afraid (apparently) to show his stuff against the best.

    Geno should have gone to the Senior Bowl last year. Unless you are a lock for the top 10 you should always go to the Senior Bowl. The difference between Geno and McCarron is Geno apparently thought he was a lock for the top 10. McCarron just looks chicken.
     
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    Geno's agent really screwed him regarding that, telling him he was a first round pick no matter if he goes or not. That led to that guy being fired. McCarron doesn't even have an agent and he's staying away from the Senior Bowl.

    Even if you don't perform well, the fact that you went out and competed against some of the best seniors always is a positive thing. Competition.
     
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    This could turn out in the Jets favor if he falls to a late round pick and they want to draft a QB.
     
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    He's trying to hide, pure and simple. The week of practice for scouts means a lot more to the evaluation of players than the game and he is choosing not to showcase his stuff for them. Very, very dumb move for a mid level QB prospect.
     
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    The only positive thing I can see coming out of this for McCarron is the hype train is definitely going to grind to a halt. He was being very over-hyped at this point and if teams start evaluating him as a mid to late rounds pick it will probably help him some.

    He's not going to look very good when compared to the Bortles and Carr's but if the evaluation is against mid to late round question marks then he's going to be seen in a better light.

    Of course that leaves him getting taken 4th to 7th round but that's maybe where he belongs.
     
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    I hope the Jets don't draft this guy - I think it even goes against what Idzik wants in a QB, one that thrives in competition.

    Dude is a fraud and the worst part about it is he comes off as very arrogant.

    To me if the Jets want QB "late" in the draft - David Fales or Jimmy Garoppolo - we should spend one of our 3rd round picks.
     
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    You guys are reading way too much into this Senior Bowl game IMO. McCarron has thrived in competition for the last 4 years as a starter and the leader of 2 NC teams. He's a proven gamer. Not a big deal if he doesn't play in a meaningless Senior Bowl game. Plenty of game tape on him for scouts to watch.

    As the article said, it probably won't hurt his draft stock. But I sure as hell hope it does so the Jets can snag him in the 3rd or 4th. Proven winner.
     
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    I hope he does slip I'd gladly take him in the 3rd or Fales Mettenberger or Murray in the 4th.
     
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    He also has no upside - and is at best a game manager or a backup QB. Not what the Jets need. The surrounding talent in Alabama easily masked the majority of the flaws in McCarron’s game.

    Proven gamer that's fine, winner that's fine. Ever heard of Ken Dorsey?

    I would take McCarron maybe in the 4th round. Fales and Mettenberger have better tools and plenty of untapped potential. One with exceptional accuracy (Fales), one with exceptional arm strength (Mettenberger).
     
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    If he's around in the 4th round I'd pick him up at that point, competition is good and he would have real value in the 4th, depending on who else was around. I'm a proponent of drafting QB's with flaws in the mid rounds, if they pan out great! if not, oh well.
     
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    The Game means next to nothing, its the scouting one at the practice that's the big deal. players get a week to work with an NFL coaching staff while scouts evaluate them. Not want to be there si a sign that he either thinks he's proven enough to get drafted high or wants to hide his limitations. Given that he has a less than stellar arm, I'm going with choice two.
     
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    I hear ya and that's a valid point. Yes you can make that comparison. However McCarron is a stronger, more durable QB than Dorsey. Throws a nice ball too. I'm just saying he may be worth a flier in mid rounds.
     
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    True, but I'd still give him a look especially if he drops into the 4th.
     
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    I definitely agree with Harpua and you on this. Where's the confidence in his abilities. I hope this drops him like a rock, but don't want the Jets to take him. I'd rather see them draft the SC QB than McCarron.
     
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    Don't want to toot my horn - OK I will just a little bit - I have said from Day 1 ... McCarron is a game manager back-up at best. Seems that McCarron hype as died down the past month or so.
     
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    Why does he have no upside? Because he doesnt have a great arm or isnt a freak athlete? Havent you learned that what makes a QB is between the ears? McCarron certainly is that type of QB.

    You "boy" Fales doesnt have a great arm. Must mean he will never be anything more than a game manager.
     
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    His upside is marginal at best, I think his ceiling is Alex Smith W/OUT the mobility. I do agree potential is about 80% mental, but you tend to forget that 20% physical and the fact of the matter is, he doesn't have great deep ball accuracy, and he has always had all-american talent around him. McCarron doesn't have anything special that separates him from the normal QB backup in the NFL.

    Fales doesn't have elite arm strength I agree - but he has pin-point accuracy and you know a quality I really like is the ability to put the ball in spots only where the play-maker can get it. That's Tom Brady-esqe. He has made the players around him better. Fales can take that trait and his pocket presence and maybe make something out of himself in the NFL. He needs a year to sit and some good coaching. Arm strength can always improve that is the best part. To have the ability to drop dimes? No, you cannot teach that

    He is far more accurate then McCarron matter of fact it's not even close. I would easily take a chance with Fales that has high upside over McCarron - what we are seeing from AJ is the best we will see of him
     
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    Sounds good to me, #DropToTheJets
     
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    He cant throw under pressure
     

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