As I said. The key is hitting on a GM and HC and let them develop the plan forward. We are not going to make any QB changes of significance until we sort out the GM and HC so we are where we are. As for AR or not the new HC and GM need to be part of the decision. If a HC is looking for a team with a solid QB for the future we are not it.
You said it was a "fact" that our young star players were discussing leaving because of Rodgers. I asked who said that (and to who)?
they clearly don’t like Rodgers, but they aren’t gonna say it publicly. Use some common sense, you think they like watching him force to his best friend 15 times a game while they just run around in the grass and lose every week
Nobody on that offense plays loose or free. They are afraid to make mistakes, Rodgers is rubbing off on them. it is time for Rodgers to retire. Give him his fuckin 500 touchdown if need be and he can retire. The NY Jets are never going to win with him
I read that too and that’s why they really need to think about sitting him Sunday. Suppose Rodgers tears his achilles Sunday, then they can’t cut him in 25. well they could if he took an injury settlement but he would never. Then we’re totally screwed for 25 and 26 unfortunately there’s no GM no HC no one left to make grounded football decisions for the future
Who? Apparently, they aren't afraid enough ... because all our young players do is make mistakes. You hate Rodgers because the media told you to hate Rodgers and you can't think for yourself. As I have said earlier, same shit that happened to Rex. The media hates anyone who thinks for themselves and dare criticize them. Which is fine; the media sucks and they themselves know it and everyone else knows it. The shame is in parroting their talking points because you can't see through it. Rodgers wasn't/isn't getting along with the coaching staff? Guess what? I don't blame him. The coaching staff is incompetent. Salah was incompetent. Ulbricht is incompetent. They all suck. Rodgers isn't getting along with young players on the team? I have no reason to believe it, but if I learned it was 100% true, I wouldn't be surprised. These "stars" have gotten worse, not better. Garrett Wilson is a very good player, but he's not Jerry Rice. Breece Hall falls down whenever there is a stiff breeze in his vicinity or someone sneezes. I really don't give a F what any of their opinions are. They don't like playing with a Pro Bowl WR (who lines up and runs the routes he is supposed to)? Too f-ing bad. We had the worst QB in football for years. We finally get rid of him and replace him with someone who knows what he is doing. And you're going to hate him because he refused to get vaccinated four years ago and the sports media can't get over it. Worse, you want to get rid of him and replace him with someone who is 90% (95%?) likely to perform worse.
No I don’t hate Rodgers cause of the “media”. I referenced results on the field, nothing from the media. So stop with that, I gave him a chance anyway, I hate that they gave up so much for him and he’s brought us a whopping 4 wins in 2 seasons
DJ Reed is on record wanting to leave. Sauce and Garrett have been floating hints of displeasure. I realize you don’t want to give any credit to the unnamed sources, so you can continue believing the team is hunky dory and all love each other. Maybe Sauce and Garrett will be going on retreats with Rodgers.
This has to do with losing, not Rodgers. Unfortunately even these guys saw their performance decline this year, not just Rodgers. I think with better coaching we can start winning again. It does not matter who the captain is, they need to start winning and the culture will change. We need better coaching, and a GM who can build an all around solid roster not fix one problem and create two others every year.
the QBR rating sort of averages things out - the fact is the QBR he has with the Jets is lower than any year with the Packers which would suggest a decline - which is to be expected in someone that is playing in their 40s I don't understand how you can disagree that the Jets QB position is unattractive? We have a QB who may place for one more year - we do not have anything behind him other than a journeyman QB and a completely untested late round draft pick - all the evidence points to the fact that if you want consistent success you need a top tier QB on your roster that you can build around - the Jets do not have that and have no obvious pathway to get to that.
Yeah, I’m not so sure of that. Especially in the case of Garrett. Where there’s smoke there’s fire. I think the long term vision is bleak and that certainly isn’t helping things, but I don’t get the impression the young guys like Rodgers at all.
but any top tier HC candidate is likely going to be looking for a team with a solid QB for the future as they know that is by far the biggest determining factor of their likely future success - I suspect that all we are going to get is candidates that don't have the luxury of being picky.
Yeah, it is unattractive, but that's the story for most teams who are looking for new GM and coach. Chicago is in a better spot as Caleb may be a hit, but that is far from confirmed. Jax has Trevor, who is grossly overpaid, so not really sure if that situation is more attractive than the Jets. That's the problem when you miss on a QB with a high pick. It's even worse in our case as it looks like we actually hit on one with Sam, but then failed to protect him and give weapons, so could not really tell if he is the guy. JD (and Mac) sure fucked the Jets in a massive massive way. A strong argument can be made we are the second most attractive (or least unattractive) spot in this Coach/GM cycle.
Most likely not close to a top choice. The team has sufficient talent short a QB, but the biggest deterrent will be working for Woody IMO. Our history has not been kind.
I actually don't mind keeping Aaron Rogers if he accepts the offense the HC runs. He is WAY too old to be running shotgun sets with read. Way too easy to defend. If this 41 year old QB has any chance to play it's I formation, ground and pound, etc. Think Lions O in a sense. He should not be throwing more than 20x a game. I truly believe this could work if we can draft a top TE and fill out our D. If he doesn't want this, kick rocks.
I agree - it is very rare to see a team looking for a new coach/GM when they have a good QB as they cover up most of the holes/mistakes (unless someone retires or has health problems) so most teams going to the market have problems at the QB position and there are not many situations like the Chargers where you have a good young QB to build around Look at who else was fired last year: - Ron Rivera - Commanders - had nothing at QB - Arthur Smith - Falcons - had nothing at QB - Frank Reich - Panthers - had an underperforming #1 pick and they need someone to fix it (may well have nothing at QB) - Mike Vrabel - Titans - had nothing at QB - Josh McDaniels - Raiders - had nothing at QB - Bill - Patriots - had nothing at QB
And this is why top tier prospective coaches are being more judicious with who they’ll interview. Ben Johnson was a top candidate last year and opted to stay as an OC. If he doesn’t like the opportunities he sees, he’ll do it again. I actually like this trend, shitty teams are going to either have to shape up or pay through the nose with a long term deal. Money has made the game demand immediate results from players and coaches. 3 years is the standard to show that you can win. Teams with a plan and a QB or a legit shot to draft a top tier QB will have their pick. The other teams like the current Jets team are either going to have to open the checkbook and offer long term coaching deals or settle for the Ron Rivera’s of the league.
