A Perfect Day for Herm Haters everywhere...

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  1. Green Guy

    Green Guy New Member

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    From Mike Vaccaro of the NY Post:

    ...there is much evidence to be studied that, after one game, what began as a bitter game of betrayal last January may well have worked as serendipitously as possible, especially when you study just how brutally things broke for Edwards during his debut in Kansas City.

    Jets fans could have printed out a blueprint for Chiefs fans to follow, that's how predictably things went at Arrowhead Stadium. All across the summer, Chiefs players crowed about Edwards' light workouts, praised Edwards for - altogether now - "treating us like men," and, in what was a chronic issue throughout his tenure in New York, the Chiefs came out flat, unfocused, blatantly unprepared in week one.

    But that wasn't Edwards' only familiar sin. It took Chiefs fans all of two series to boo their new coach, when on third-and-five, well inside the Bengals' red zone, Larry Johnson wound up diving into the pile for a minimal gain. This was precisely the kind of numbingly conservative offense that used to be a staple of Jets gameplans, and used to drive Jets fans insane.

    But wait, there was more. Afterward, pressed about that call, Edwards muttered: "Missed communication on the call. I'll leave it at that."

    But, of course, by saying that much it was hardly left at that. Soon, offensive coordinator Mike Solari confessed that he'd either lost track of the down or the distance, assuming a place under Herm's Bus that Paul Hackett could certainly tell him all about. And with Trent Green out for at least two weeks now, Chiefs fans ought to enjoy how well Edwards adjusts to those weekly dramas.
     
  2. Green Guy

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    I know some of our beat writers have changed - but where were they the last couple of years regarding Herm and his tactics? They waited until he skipped town to give their true honest assessments?
     
  3. Jetsman5137

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    LOL, Johnsons run on 3rd and 5 seems so much like a Curtis Martin dive in the same situation for no gain. Herms "miscommunication" with the offense was probably that he called a draw play and they heard a dive on that down.
     
  4. Section 227. Row 5

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    That really sums it up. I noticed that "missed communication" the other day and thought, isn't the term "miscommunication?"

    But be that as it may, Herm is off to being Herm. I don't really hate Herm... never have... even after his courting of the Chiefs and doing the behind-the-scenes dance that he obviously did and never admitted to, it still never caused me to hate the man. I chalked it off to someone trying to bail on a situation when things got tough.

    But Herm creates his own tough situations, and now all the bullshit in the midwest isn't going to get him out of it a second time.
     
  5. Green Guy

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    The reason I'm a "Herm Hater" is

    1) that he is a liar and dishonest in so many ways

    2) he is ready, willing and able to throw someone under the bus whenever he needs to deflect attention from his own mistakes or short commings

    3) what he did to the Jets was pure mutiny and he lied about it and orchestrated it...starting with his training camp dinner with Peterson all the way to the way he "forced" the Jets to fire him
     
  6. mkronenberg

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    I definitely agree. But it doesn't matter now, because the ship has been righted and we're going to be a good organization with Mangini and Tannenbaum.

    However, it is nice to laugh at Herm and the Chiefs from a distance.
     
  7. Pam

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    He got that right! It used to drive me up the damn wall! I would scream myself hoarse going WTF is he doing? Watch the clock damit, pay attention!

    I feel bad for the Chiefs fans though, kinda......ok better them than me I guess. :beer:
     
  8. GreenHornet

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    Herm is the modern-day Rich Kotite.
     
  9. SOWELLisGOD

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    i don't know about that, i wouldnt go that far...we at least went to the playoffs under herm
     
  10. GreenHornet

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    OK, true. We earned flat out with no help from anyone, 1 playoff appearance in 5 years. The other 2 count but they are what I call more of a bonus than pure earned football.

    I really am just very bitter at the mess he left us with in January, the lies, the ultra-conservative play calling (it is pretty obvious that Hackett was only following orders), the horrible way he managed the team all of last year, and his time management blunders.
     
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    Kotite was 36-28 with the Eagles before being hired by the Jets. Herman Edwards was 39-41 before being hired by the Chiefs.
     
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    Didn't Kotite do pretty damn well with the Eagles before he came here too? I see a ton of parallels.
     
  13. CaneJet

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    A very valid point. Let's see if Edwards goes 3-13 like the Jets did in 1995 under Kotex...and let see ifthe Jets shock the world and go to the playoffs like the Eagles did under Ray Rhodes the same year...
     
  14. DevTeam

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    Herm was a good salesman, and I think everyone knows that he rode Curtis Martin and other Parcells acquisitions to the brink. When he realized things were going to need to be rebuilt, he jumped ship because he doesn't know how to rebuild, and also, he wouldn't look too good either stringing together consecutive losing seasons.

    I couldn't be happier that he's gone... thank god.
     
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    I love this post. Herm inherited a very good team, like a really cool tree you get from the nursery. Instead of watering and fertilizing it, Herm let drought and gluttony do its' dirty work. The roots were never developed and the tree died. The End.
     
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    Now that's being offensive to Kotite.
     
  17. wa2k99

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    Man I didin't realize Herm was worse than Art Howe, Stump Merrill, John Muckler, and Ray Handley! Please. I'll grant Herm is not a good in game coach. I think he's more suited to being a defensive coordinator. He's good with the players and he wouldn't have to deal with offense that way.
     
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    To paraphrase the "it's not the skill, men, it's the will" mantra, "it's the birdies sitting on the branches, men, not the water and fertilizer."
     
  19. Green Guy

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    defensive coordinator - a post he's never held... the guy doesn't know down and distance, and he can't game plan worth a damn. How could he be a coordinator?

    Maybe he should be a special assistant like Mangini was in Cleveland aka BALL BOY!
     
  20. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    How long before Herm is run out of KC? I give it till this coming offseason
     

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