A look at what the 2010 Draft could have in store for us

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  1. The GM

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    1) Arrellious Benn, WR, Illinois
    This is assuming that we don't trade for Braylon Edwards. Benn is a better pro prospect than any WR that was taken in the 09 draft in my opinion, and he could be the #2 or #3 rated WR on some boards behind Dez Bryant and Damian Williams. Still my favorite WR, a true #1 at the next level.

    2) Jared Odrick, 3-4 DE, PSU
    Great DE size at 6'5, 310 lbs. Great against the run with a topnotch motor and intangibles and is a good pass rusher. This pick comes down to Odrick and Vince Oghobaase if both are on the board which I think is certainly possible with the tremendous amount of DLine talent in the 2010 draft. We need a 3-4 DE badly.

    3) Boo Robinson, NT, Wake Forest

    6'2, 330 lbs monstrous NT who will fall in one of the most talented defensive drafts in a long time. To keep Jenkins healthier longer we need to get someone to spell him, and we also should not pass up a talent like Robinson who could be our cog in the middle for a long time after Jenkins' playing days are done. 5 sacks last season as well.

    4) Mike Johnson, OL, Alabama
    Has played RT, OG, and LT at Alabama. A big linemen that can serve as great depth from Day 1 and take over the LG spot for Faneca when he is done in NY, or he could be groomed for the RT spot to take over for Woody.

    5) Brandon Brinkley, CB, Houston
    One of my favorite sleepers for the 2010 draft, Brinkley had a great junior season notching 74 tackles, 5.5 TFL, 15 PBUs and 4 INTs. He also has great measurables to go with those stats at 6'0, 185 lbs, and a 4.46 40 yard dash. Lito Sheppard isn't the long term answer at CB and Brinkley can compete with Lowery for the nickel and future starting spot.

    6) Keiland Williams, RB, LSU
    Williams has all of the athletic ability that you could want in a RB - 5'11, 230 lbs, 4.45 40 - as he can run inside, outside, and catch passes out of the backfield. He is a great talent but he is playing second fiddle to Charles Scott at LSU. Of the two LSU backs he is the more talented and he has a ton more potential. Getting someone with this talent so late is going to be a big steal for whoever gets him, and a deep and talented backfield of Greene, Washington, and Williams will be great for us for a long time.

    7) Mickey Shuler, TE, PSU
    I'd be surprised if we don't draft Shuler next year. He isn't the greatest receiving threat as a TE but he is an elite blocker which is something we really need.
     
  2. Firemangini Ed

    Firemangini Ed New Member

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    Shuler is way too old. Wait, there's another one?
     
  3. Jam.

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    With these ratings, where are you assuming we are drafting?
     
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    another TE from Penn State may not go over to well...

    jil
     
  5. Mr Electric

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    A mock already? Spring practice is barely over with...

    I honestly don't feel like picking through this right now, but this stood out:

    Did you really write that? If Keiland Williams was more talented than Charles Scott, he'd be the Bayou Bengals' starting running back.

    Scott had 200+ carries for 1000+ yards and 18 TDs. Scott had twice as many touches as Williams: Scott had 225 total touches while Williams had 94.

    You're starting this crap WAY too early - making players seem better than they really are. Keiland Williams has been a huge let down for LSU. He's a 5-star prep prospect that hasn't panned out. He may be a late bloomer, but Charles Scott is the better back.

    Taking him the 6th round is the only thing you've done right when it comes to Keiland Williams. He's a backup running back with decent production.

    Charles Scott certainly isn't a top pro prospect at running back, but he's arguably the best power back in all of college football - he proved that by pounding the SEC.
     
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  6. The GM

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    Nothing is wrong with looking ahead.

    And Williams is definitely the more talented back at LSU. I'm overrating him seeing as I have him as a late round RB, but when he has been given the opportunity to run the ball he hasn't disappointed. Look back at the game against Virginia Tech in 2007 against a great defense. He only got 7 carries, but made the most of them gaining 127 yards and 2 TDs. It doesn't bother me that Scott is the starting RB. James Davis was the starting RB at Clemson over CJ Spiller, but Spiller is the better RB with the higher upside. The same goes for Keiland Williams. He will have a better NFL career than his career at LSU. He's a very talented RB that can do-it-all. Les Miles, for whatever reason he has, prefers starting Scott. The touch totals is only indicative of who the coach favors.
     
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    I don't know anything about this Keiland Williams guy, but Shonn Greene sat on the bench for two years and when he got to finally play he looked pretty good.
     
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    yeah Kieliand Williams had an awful season, partially because Scott is so dominant as a rusher, of course he is gonna lose a couple of starters on the offensive line. I watch a ton of LSU football and I gotta say Scott is just a much better back than Williams. Scott is not going to blaze by tacklers, but he does not go down without a fight he does a really good job at breaking tackles and getting extra yardage. One of my only concerns with him is that he seems to run kind of high. The only thing that Williams did that was really notable was throw for a TD on a hb option. Scott is the better and puts defenders in the ground
     
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    Rejus Benn is a beast, so is Odrick. And I don't know much about 3-6, but Shuler, too, is a mauler. Awesome, awesome draft.
     
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    Oh yeah, WHAT A SWEET DRAFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG. I hope we suck next year so that can happen!! WE'LL BE STACKED.


    Seriously, a touch early for the mock, especially one where you don't even say where the pick is (though with getting Benn and Odrick, I'm guessing we went 2-14). Plus, there's probably not a true running back in the SEC better than Scott, much less one on his own team.
     
  11. Killeri9590

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    2010 draft is so stacked that we'd probably not need to trade up to get a player we'd want.
     
  12. The GM

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    I did not say that Williams is a better running back right now than Scott. What I said was that Williams is more talented than Scott and has the higher upside, which I stick by. Scott might be more polished at the moment, but if he lands in the right place Williams will have a better NFL career than Scott. He's a potential pick, but he also has shown his tremendous talents when he has been given opportunities to handle the ball, breaking TD runs for over 65 yards and TD receptions for over 30, making people miss and breaking tackles.

    Anyone team would be wise to take him late in the 2010 draft. To be able ton have a back as talented as Williams with such tremendous upside as your #3 RB (in our case, or even #4 if TJ is still around) is fantastic.
     
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    well then Les Miles must have done an awful job at recruiting him, there are a handful of teams in college football that are loaded with talent, LSU is one of them. Williams had every chance to beat out Scott. Scott is the better running back plain and simple. Im puzzled as to how Williams is struggling against the SEC (best conference in college football) but then will some how go crazy in the NFL, I really cant see that happening
     
  14. The GM

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    I don't understand how he is "struggling" against SEC competition.

    He has averaged over 5 yards per carry for his career (5.74 YPC in 2006, 6.83 YPC in 2007, and 5.02 YPC in 2008) and over 12 yards per reception the last two seasons (12.56 yards per catch in 2007 and 12.18 yards per catch in 2008), and as a part time return man last season he averaged over 22 yards per return. He had 11 rushing TDs in his freshman and sophomore seasons in a backup/splitting time role, and saw his role diminished as a junior getting only 3 total TDs. The talent is certainly there and his pro potential is as high as any RB in college football right now. It'll be a risk/reward selection in the 2010 draft, but a small risk and a very large reward. At the very worst you get a good complimentary back.
     
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    He's a freakin' spell back...Williams is running against defensive fronts that are beaten and worn down by Charles Scott.

    Williams had under 100 touches in 2008.
     
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    Charles Scott had 18 rushing touchdowns in one season. Who's the better back?


    Are you fucking kidding me?
     
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    Look no further then Rashad Jennings
     
  18. Mr Electric

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    Well, according to The GM - Rashad Jennings was a first round talent...must be why he went in the 7th round...
     
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    he also said Hood in the 1st was laughable.... good job on that one - I didn't expect it and boom the Steelers make you look good. :beer:
     
  20. The GM

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    That clearly has to do with opportunities. Like you said, Scott got 217 carries last season. Williams had only 83.

    Also without an established QB Les Miles opted to use Scott all day in the red zone, his TD #s were inflated because of it.

    If you are going to argue against Williams being the more talented, athletic RB with a higher upside, you're mistaken. He has a ton of potential, I never said he will definitely fulfill it though.

    What about Rashad Jennings. The kid is a talented back that slid in a deep RB heavy draft due to poor college competition and the lack of need at the RB position in the NFL. Michael Johnson slid to the 3rd, Duke Robinson and Jamon Meredith slid to the compensatory area in the 5th, and Trevor Canfield and Rashad Jennings slid to the 7th.

    Two prospects Electric was very high on slid to the 6th (Pascoe) and 7th (Marko Mitchell). When I had Mitchell going in the 5th round he said he would definitely not be available then and I was stupid for thinking so. He also said Gilbert would definitely not be available at our 2nd rounder when I thought he would, and same for Sean Smith calling them surefire first rounders. I was right there again.

    As for Evander Hood, I made the statement about him not being a 1st rounder based on his on field play and the rest of the draft class and before the Combine and Pro Days. He rose, like Vernon Gholston of 08 and DHB of 09, because of his workouts. And he barely made it into the 1st (the last pick).
     

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