3rd Circuit resurrects Jets fan’s suit against Patriots

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  1. Kentucky Jet

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    3rd Circuit resurrects Jets fan’s suit against Patriots
    POSTED: April 13, 2010 By Nathan Gorenstein


    INQUIRER STAFF WRITER

    To the ire of the New England Patriots and the NFL, Carl J. Mayer, football fan, Jets season ticket holder, and, most importantly, a lawyer with a like-minded colleague, has filed the lawsuit that won't die.

    He's claiming the Pats and their coach, Bill Belichick, owe fans $184 million in compensation stemming from the infamous incident on Sept. 9, 2007, when a Patriot employee surreptitiously videotaped the New York Jets defensive signals.

    Or as Mayer contends, "illegally recording, capturing and stealing the New York Jets signals and visual coaching instructions," thereby depriving ticket holders of an "honest match."

    The lawsuit was widely derided and ridiculed when it was filed in 2007. A U.S. District Court judge in Trenton, New Jersey, tossed it out without a hearing. But it has been resurrected by the Third Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia, which hears New Jersey cases. The higher court not only agreed to decide whether the potential class action case can go to trial, but selected it to be one of the relatively few cases to get an oral argument before a three-judge panel.

    Kickoff is at 1:30 p.m. Wednesday.

    While the NFL fined Belichick $500,000 and the Patriots were ordered to pay $250,000, Mayer wants ticket holders to get a triple refund for all eight games played between the Patriots and the Jets in Giants stadium from 2000 through 2007.

    The Pats and the NFL, through their attorneys, have begged the court to toss the case. Their opinion?

    "Frivolous." "Mockery of the judicial process." "The NFL respectfully submits that allowing this case to continue any longer would only waste more time, money and judicial resources," the lawyers said in court filings.

    Even when Mayer and colleague Bruce Afran, both Princeton attorneys, twice missed filing deadlines - technically a reason to toss the case - the appeals court rejected pleas for a dismissal.

    Apparently someone on the court finds the legal issues intriguing.

    "For them to grant argument on a case like this is pretty unusual," said Burt M. Rublin, who specializes in appellate law at Ballard Spahr LLP. He is not involved in the case.

    "The court generally reserves argument for cases that they find significant, because they have so many appeals," he said.

    Like many attorneys, and not a few sports fans, Rublin recalls the news coverage when Mayer first went to court. "We all thought what a ridiculous law suit."

    For pro-football, the suit is a potential nightmare. There are hundreds of rules governing player and team behavior on and off the field. And, "teams sometimes decide to break rules intentionally to gain a competitive advantage," noted the Patriots' lawyers.

    "If every patron at every game could sue every time a team was offsides or took a cheap shot at the quarterback - or had a player that was found to have taken 'banned substances'," said a court filing, "every court in the country would be overfilled with class action law suits."

    "That's absurd," Mayer said in an interview. He spent 10 years on the waiting list for a Jets season ticket. "They are trying to argue that its no different than an offensive lineman trying to hold someone."

    Mayer and Afran contend that media accounts of the Patriots taping and information collected by U.S. Sen. Arlen Specter suggest the team was secretly tapped opposing squads from 2000 through 2007. That, says Afran, "rigged" the games in the Patriots favor. The Patriots did not respond to a request for comment Tuesday.

    "This is a case involving fraud by the management of the team," Afran said in an interview. "One team is rigging it, because one team is getting an advantage over the other . . . Its the ticket holder who is defrauded."

    The Patriots and the NFL want the court to uphold the 2008 decision of U.S. District Court Judge Garrett E. Brown Jr.

    He read the suit, and in a seven page decision gave Mayer and Afran the back of his hand. "Plaintiff's ticket was redeemed, and he was able to see whatever transpired . . . on that date, in this case, a football game, and as a result Plaintiff got exactly what he paid for."

    Ticket holders have no legal right to sue over the quality of the play, he concluded.

    The NFL says Brown was "absolutely" right.

    "The question is whether they have any right to monetary damages,' said Greg Aiello, a spokesman for the NFL said Wednesday, "and the judge ruled under the law they don't."

    The NFL is a party because Mayer contends the league's decision to destroy the Patriot's cache of videos was, essentially, destroying evidence.

    Mayer and Afran are not exactly minor leaguers. They've made a career of representing the little guy. Mayer describes himself as the "Lawyer for the People," and on his Web site says he "dedicates his law practice, writing and electoral efforts to ending the tyranny of corporate power over American citizens."

    Afran once ran for the U.S. Senate from New Jersey on the Green Party ticket.

    Mayer also concedes that if he and Afran weren't lawyers, there would likely be no case.

    "It would very, very expensive," for anyone without their own law degree, he said. "The other side has an entire squadron they are throwing at this."
     
  2. Inafalcs

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    haha I love this.
     
  3. JetLagInCa

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    I love the timing of this, with all the off-season moves we've made and the PATs didn't. Let them sweat it out a bit.... although nothing will come of it. Gotta love the negative publicity against BB, a coach who's team is in the sunset of their prime. Hell, kick him when he's down. One dead (but past great) coach went to Miami, the other one to New England. They should know when to hang up their clipboards. Long live Rex, the leader of the soon-to-be dynasty team of the 10's.
     
  4. JetRizing89

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    its not as absurd as it sounds

    the patriots did cheat and defrauded the fans
     
  5. Jersey Joe 67

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    Belicheat should be banned from the HOF just like Pete Rose(even though Rose should be let in IMO).
     
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    At least this will always exist....



    2009--Pittsburgh (AFC) 27, Arizona (NFC) 23
    **2008--N.Y. Giants (NFC) 17, New England (AFC) 14
    2007--Indianapolis (AFC) 29, Chicago (NFC) 17
    2006--Pittsburgh (AFC) 21, Seattle (NFC) 10
    *2005--New England (AFC) 24, Philadelphia (NFC) 21
    *2004--New England (AFC) 32, Carolina (NFC) 29

    2003--Tampa Bay (NFC) 48, Oakland (AFC) 21
    *2002--New England (AFC) 20, St. Louis (NFC) 17
    2001--Baltimore Ravens (AFC) 34, N.Y. Giants (NFC) 7
    2000--St. Louis (NFC) 23, Tennessee (AFC) 16


    * - Cheated
    ** - Didn't Cheat
     
  7. FJF

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    it's frivolous but i love to see the patriots squirm.beli could be like col. jessup on the stand.

    lawyer:did you tape the defensive signals?
    beli:your goddamn right i did!
     
  8. Jersey Joe 67

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    NICE!!!!!

    Filler
     
  9. jetsandtheunder

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    I would rather see this go away and us start being the assumed winner of the division before the season
     
  10. Pluvrr

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    Go Green Party! Gotta love those lawyers! :)
     
  11. JackBower

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    It would probably never happen, but imagine is the Pats and Belicheat lost this battle. The Patriots would be crippled for years to come!
     
  12. Chrisp22

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    Anytime the Pats have to be inconvienienced, I'm for it.
     
  13. JetsUK

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    Its funny cos its the Pats but its still a bad idea - as mentioned in another thread this is the problem with a system of not having to pay the winning side's costs - loads of frivolous nuisance claims.

    What would we say if some Pats fan lawyer (they have a few up in Boston I beleive?) sued the Jets because Brady was injured by an illegal hit by a Jets player thereby depriving them of the benefit of their season ticket?

    Even over here you have had footballers (soccer :shudder: ) suing other players where a bad tackle had ended their career.

    Sports and laws don't mix well and this is a bad move for everyone involved in the NFL.
     
  14. Dierking

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    I'd still like to see someone from the NFL be put under oath and subject to prosecution for perjury be compelled to testify as to what exactly was on the tapes they destroyed.
     
  15. jetophile

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    Holy Cr*p, HAH. I still have the clipping from The New York Post with the division standings and the asterisk with *caught cheating at the bottom. It ran all season long. :lol:
     
  16. flajetfanson

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    I am curious about the outcome. Because the pats did cheat and were caught. It is a case does the punishment fit the crime. the fines do not. what is money to an NFL Owner They should have lost several draft picks and the should have gone to the teams that were cheated based on some type of formula on how many tapes and what not.
    Seeing how this did not happen and the NFL destroyed rather then confiscate potential evidence that could have cleared or damaged them in a legal case they should be slammed also just for that. It will be interesting to see how this turns out. I have the direct ticket and want my money back because the patsies cheated and there for I was declined a fair product for the years they cheated.
     
  17. gustoonarmy

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    Is this guy really serious? As much as I hate the Pats, can we just all move on?
    As the article says....

     
  18. JetsUK

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    A lot of these claims brought by lawyers are just a cheap/free way for them to drum up some publicity for themselves and their practices. I mean these guys are getting national press for something that carries 0 risk.
     
  19. Docny1975

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    I like it any distraction we can cause for the patriots is a good distraction
     

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