11 Days Till Deadline,What Should The Mets Do?

Discussion in 'Baseball Forum' started by 17a_tailgater, Jul 20, 2010.

  1. 17a_tailgater

    17a_tailgater Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2004
    Messages:
    10,573
    Likes Received:
    19
    there are 3 ways to go about this.
    a) trade some prospects for oswalt or lilly
    b) try to trade away some of our pieces and concieve the season.
    c) try too make a trade for lesser talent myers, westbrook or millwood.maybe even jose lopez to play 2nd??

    i say b or c
    then fire omar AND jerry.
    then hire bobby V and see what he can get out of this bunch of vets and youngsters like pagan thole davis and mejiia.

    2011 free agents
    cliff lee
    jeremy bonderman
    adam dunn
    carl crawford
    victor martinez
    jayson werth

    2012 we have a couple of players coming off the books
    beltran
    krod
    perez
    maine
    francour
    castillo
    cora
    reyes

    2012 free agents
    broxton
    papelbon
    sizemore who has a $8.5 club option
    kazmir $12.5 club option
     
  2. MParty7441

    MParty7441 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2004
    Messages:
    6,251
    Likes Received:
    73
    I say B. Theyre not going to do A, and doing C won't do anything for them. If Pelfrey is really this bad, it wont matter.
     
  3. hazmat

    hazmat New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2004
    Messages:
    3,227
    Likes Received:
    0
    B. Time to start over with a new gm and coach. New owner would be good too.
     
  4. maynardsmyhero-uk

    maynardsmyhero-uk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2007
    Messages:
    3,265
    Likes Received:
    61
    Minaya and Manuel should be sent packing.

    Go with B and start again, we have some good young talent but a fucking retard of a GM and Manager.
     
  5. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2004
    Messages:
    12,121
    Likes Received:
    5,512
    The smart move would be to trade anyone and everyone for prospects and start the inevitable rebuilding process. Which means of course that we will trade the few prospects we actually do have for a middle of the road past his prime pitcher that will be a FA after this season.

    Sell the team Freddy, sell the team.
     
  6. 17a_tailgater

    17a_tailgater Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2004
    Messages:
    10,573
    Likes Received:
    19
    i just laughed , then thought a second, then cursed out loud......

    who do we have that has value?
    bay?
    santana?
    beltran?
    krod?
    barajas?
     
  7. guinness77

    guinness77 Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2008
    Messages:
    3,653
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yes, please.
     
  8. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2003
    Messages:
    17,751
    Likes Received:
    1,593
    I think Bay has value (just not with this team or at what he's being paid) but they would never trade him in year 1. You put Bay in Coors or another hitters park and he'd have 25 HRs and 55 RBIS instead of the garbage he is giving us. Why this team refused to even consider Holliday a hitter as opposed to a guy who feasted at Fenway shows the lack of actually putting a winner on the field.

    I say we sit put with what we have. This team is not a championship caliber team and trading away prospects for a rental isn't going to improve that.

    We need a 2nd baseman as what we wheel out there on a nightly basis isn't going to make the cut. We also need another arm and a bench. As usual we were teased but when push came to shove the Mets were what we all assumed they were.

    As far as next year, I'd look at bringing in Dunn and throwing him in RF. His avg is always low but you know your getting 35-45 HRs from him.

    Reyes
    Beltran
    Wright
    Dunn
    Davis
    Bay
    Thole/Barajas
    2B
    P

    Not a bad lineup

    Then maybe make a trade for somebody like Oswalt but I don't know what it'd take to get him. Lilly wouldn't be a bad 2nd option. As far as 2nd base I have no idea what the hell we do because Castillo and Cora suck ass.
     
    #8 Barry the Baptist, Jul 21, 2010
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2010
  9. 17a_tailgater

    17a_tailgater Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2004
    Messages:
    10,573
    Likes Received:
    19
    i guess you didnt hear, the phillies are close to bring oswalt in.and trading werth to tampa bay

    next year is castillo last and cora's opton kicks in if he plays 80 games.so we will have both next year.

    terrible terrible decisions by omar

    and if we sign dunn what about pagan or fmart?
     
  10. 17a_tailgater

    17a_tailgater Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2004
    Messages:
    10,573
    Likes Received:
    19
    if we could ship bay to the rockies i would do it in a heartbeat. and i would love to get seth smith in return

    santana to the giants for maybe like matt cain
     
  11. kinghenry89

    kinghenry89 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2005
    Messages:
    5,052
    Likes Received:
    0
    If I were the Mets I'd pretty much stand pat. There's nobody on the market who would put them over the top, but I don't think it makes sense to blow the whole team up. It's not like the NBA or NHL where it makes sense to sell everybody and tank for a draft pick.

    If they're going to start from scratch they should wait until the offseason. Beltran and Reyes' value will be much higher then.

    I do agree that it's time for Manuel to go though, and Minaya's firing is long overdue.
     
  12. 17a_tailgater

    17a_tailgater Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2004
    Messages:
    10,573
    Likes Received:
    19
    the good old days
    [​IMG]
     
  13. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

    Joined:
    May 20, 2003
    Messages:
    20,810
    Likes Received:
    232
    "Sell the team, Wilpon" at 1:28-
    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAHAg95hcsM[/YOUTUBE]
     
  14. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

    Joined:
    May 20, 2003
    Messages:
    20,810
    Likes Received:
    232
    I think The Guy Who Can Pitch With Bugs on Him could be acquired from Cleveland.
    Lilly is on the downside of his career, Oswalt probably doesn't want to come to NY and if he did would probably be a Mets version of Eddie Whitson, Westbrook is a so-so pitcher, etc.
    I think Fausto Carmona is the only guy rumored to be on the trade market who the Mets could get and then have for a number of years. It obviously would come down to what Cleveland wants in return. If the Mets are going into this with the attitude that the move is more about 2011 and beyond than trying to nab the wild card spot, then maybe they could make a good trade for a change. If a good deal is not available to them, then fuck it. Forget about it and fix the holes in the offseason.
     
  15. IATA

    IATA Trolls

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2008
    Messages:
    8,039
    Likes Received:
    0
    The Mets are trying to trade Jeff Francoeur, according to Mike Puma of the New York Post. The right fielder is playing less now that Carlos Beltran is healthy, and a friend told Puma that Francoeur would welcome a trade if he were given the chance to play every day.

    Francoeur has hit .277/.315/.437 with 18 homers since the Mets acquired him for Ryan Church about a year ago. Much of Francoeur's production came in 2009, however; this year his OPS sits at .673.

    Any team looking to add Francoeur will have to consider his $5MM salary (he'll earn about $2MM between now and the end of the season). If Francoeur finishes the season well, his team can retain him for 2011 through arbitration, but he is a non-tender candidate at this point.
     
  16. southparkfanciz

    southparkfanciz Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2009
    Messages:
    1,529
    Likes Received:
    14
    They need to do A and fire the two spics and trade for Lily or Myers. At least to restore whatever hope is left for the season.
     
  17. IATA

    IATA Trolls

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2008
    Messages:
    8,039
    Likes Received:
    0
    Racist much?
     
  18. SixFeetDeep

    SixFeetDeep Red Hot Robbie Cano

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2007
    Messages:
    2,781
    Likes Received:
    2
    yeah, you cant fire the entire mets roster!
     
  19. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2003
    Messages:
    17,751
    Likes Received:
    1,593

    Haha I'm sure teams are beating down the door for Frenchy!!!! They are lining up around the corner for a guy who can't hit his weight.

    Who are the two spics?
     
  20. IATA

    IATA Trolls

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2008
    Messages:
    8,039
    Likes Received:
    0
    The Mets completed their deal with free agent reliever Chad Cordero, who will likely pitch in Triple A Buffalo. Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports first reported the agreement and Andy Martino of the New York Daily News noted that the deal had become official (via Twitter).

    Cordero had labrum surgery two years ago and battled his way back to the Majors with the Mariners in June. Optioned back to Triple A on July 15th, Cordero elected free agency. It appears that Cordero will be arbitration-eligible after the season, as he'll still be short of six years service time.

    Rosenthal points out that Mets GM Omar Minaya originally drafted Cordero 20th overall as Expos GM in 2003. Cordero went on to save 128 games for the Expos/Nationals before his injury.

    Cordero, 28, struggled in his short big league stint but posted a 4.12 ERA, 10.1 K/9, and 1.8 BB/9 in 19.6 Triple A innings this year. The Mets scouted Kevin Gregg and Scott Downs over the weekend, but Cordero is a more affordable option.




    Finally a good move by the Mets.
     

Share This Page