Joe Namath, Don Maynard rip these Jets- Daily News

The holy grail of Jetsdom, I can't say I disagree.

 

Listen to the legends. For the love of god, listen to the legends. Dink and Dunk is for girls, coaching experience is important, grow a pair of balls... wow maybe the darksiders on this board are all related to Don and Joe.

 

"Maynard, Namath's favorite receiver, was more general. Before Sunday's game at the Meadowlands, he lamented the lack of experience among coaches in the NFL, including that of Jets head coach Eric Mangini."

This is something I've been thinking about for a while, I think Bellicheck is a somewhat unique figure in his ability to succeed as an NFL coach despite never having even played D-1 ball. But there are always exceptions, and Bellichecks father was a college coach and that should be an advantage. I think NFL owners have been tricked by BB's mini dynasty into thinking that the future belongs to dorks from D-3 schools, it doesn't. And also, I just think the former players are more interesting. Mike Ditka was the most interesting NFL coach ever, he played. Herm sucked, but he was interesting and he played. Even a nerdy former player like Zorn is more interesting than Mangini and BB.

 

I'm going to go against the grain here. I think ex-players are given too much credit...honestly. Not for their achievements - they deserve the credit in that arena but for their anylitical skills. So ripping guys who haven't played?The article itself states the success of guys like Bellicheck, considered a football genious, despite his non-existant pro-football career. The fact is a lot of the ex-players don't have the smarts to coach. They may have been outstanding at their individual positions but to do their job each week that's all they needed to be good at. Admittedly some former players in all sports turn out to be great coaches and managers but for me it shouldn't be a pre-requisite...people should be judged on their record, their merit - not judged as pouring scorn on the game or something moronic like that just because they didnt make it to the pros.
By all means Maynard should criticise Mangini...why not he's earned his word. But for the love of God criticise him for substance. Conservative play-calling?sure. 126 coaches who have never played and that's the problem? These results mean a lot to soo many people, they make money or lose money, they cost people jobs. GM's and owners want to win - and they don't hire people like Gruden and Coughlin to stick it to ex-players...they do it coz these guys are better.

I'd say something along the same lines about television work. Ex-players are so often whining about the guys who have never played the game (see Mike Golic ripping Kornhiser on his MNF performance). I live in a rugby obsessed country where some of the best players are the absolute worst to listen to commentating a game. I feel the same about someone like Mike Ditka. Whilst most of the announcers and analysts on the nfl are really pretty good, including ex-players, Ditka perplexes me. For me he is never one to offer a particularly interesting angle on the game, he makes up words left right and center and he can sometimes struggle to put a sentence together....he shouldn't be working at the highest level of sports journalism just because he is a respected former coach and player. On the other hand I find Cowher to be quite a sharp analyst (what I have heard from him) and I particularly enjoy listening to Troy Aikman....ok enough for one rant!

 

Mangini should bring in Namath and Maynard the way he brought in Teddy Atlas season one.

This team needs someone to help these guys get their mind right.

 

What kind of remark is that for Maynard and Namath to make? Their coach when they won the Super Bowl, Weeb Ewbank, never played in the NFL either.

 

I for one was a little miffed when listening to Joe, stone-cold sober or close to it, in the announcer's booth. I was really hoping for "Susy Kobler Part Deux."

 

I cant deal with Namath ...hes soooo sickening....enough with him already....how embarrassing that he is still the only one we can dig up for these events....40 years already...oh my God do we ned a new Namath

 

You think the fact that he finished his college QB playing in 1930 might have had something to do with it.

This is Ewbanks bio before coaching a day for the Jets.

Mangini is a young inexperienced HC who got his job because he worked for BB and Tannenbuam is friends with him. He may well turn into a good HC but he and the staff they put together is over matched and it shows.

Namath drew up plays in the huddle drunk that had more continuity and chance for success than the games Shotty is calling.

 

I'm not sure how I feel about the rest of his comments, but this one really resonated with me:

That corroborates with somethign I've been posting for a long tiem here now: that my impression of the QB protection Favre is getting this year is that -- excepting 2005 -- it's the worse Favre has had in a good decade. I expected a lot more out of a very highly paid collection of #1 draft choices. Some of the hits Favre has taken in the last two weeks in particular have been real nasty, it's almost like it's Alex Smith and the 49ers out there. Maybe I'm being unfair, it's not the always the protection but sometimes the plays that take too long to develop that are the issue. Or Favre is a little slow in making decisions because he has still not assimilated the playbook into his subconscious. All I know is that in Green Bay he was a master of getting rid of the ball VERY quickly. Here in the Jets O, that seems to be harder to get done.

Favre is tough, no doubt, he has to be in order to have put together that incredible streak. But it's also a function of good protection and having a pressure release valve ready on every play. If he keeps getting hit like htis, he only play worse and worse, and the streak will probably end at some point.

 

Don Maynard is the greatest Jet of all time.

 

No, but he was a football coach for 40 years at all levels before they won the superbowl. Experience does count unless you are Woody Johnson and want to save a buck.

 

It might have something to do with not establishing a running game, going empty when they blitz 5 or 6 with no hot read, and the total lack of playaction. Why do we either line up with 2 backs and under center and run or SG empty and throw. Can't we run some out of the gun, maybe a shuffle pass to Leon, and maybe we could throw out of 2 back sets more than on 3rd and 1. Why did Patrick Ramsey get killed in DC? The OC scheme might have something to do with it.

 

once you've seen greatness, perpetual mediocrity just doesn't cut it.

those 3 years under the tuna were the closest thing most of you have seen to the sb jets.:wink:

 

Namath doesn't do anything without getting paid first. The guys he played with don't even like him (or weren't inspired by him) why would today's players. Don't need that kind of mentatity in the clubhouse. Don't get me wrong I love Namath I just don't think you invite him to speak to the team and think that will solve what we have problems with.

I am really hoping that the last couple of weeks have been a deliberate strategy where we haven't been showing all of our cards and what we can really do so that when we start playing the good teams we really let loose what we can do. I am hoping. The bad thing is I don't think that's the case.

 

Up 4 fourth quarter 3rd and 2 on the 8 a FG puts us up 7 and we run a freaking empty backfield formation spread in the gun when Favre throws the INT. Line up strong and run it through them or hit the TE on the fake you get a yard or a yard and a half you go for it on 4th or kick the FG. You get nothing or lose a yard you kick the FG. At home against the Chiefs that game is over right there either way the only thing that can lose you the game is the INT.

 

Thank you Don Maynard!!!!!!!

 

Yeah....It seemed like a really bad call. Run the ball til u get a 1st dowm !!!