Will eric ever own up? Always say " I'll do the same all over."

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  1. Rod_2

    Rod_2 Member

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    Every news conference, no matter how bad the team looked. mangini always says, "I stand by the playing calling. We called what we prepared for. I'll do the same if I had to do it over."

    The way I look at that statement is eric think his game planning is perfect everyweek and the play calling is always right. The players didn't execute so things went wrong.
    Could it be a play call is not the right one?
    Could it be the other team had a better game plan than you?
    Could it be the other team made better game time adjustments than you?
    Could it be, dare I say, the Jets were out coached?

    Comments on erics' weekly post game news conference.
     
  2. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    1. If he came up with a perfect gameplan that doesn't work (because players cannot execute) how perfect is that?

    2. Have you heard of contingency plan? If one thing doesn't work, TRY SOMETHING ELSE. Oh, Jets love sticking to their gun.

    3. If you know players cannot execute that perfect plan of yours, (Isn't 6 weeks enough time to evaluate it?) COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE.
     
  3. nyjetsfan7234

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    he will never change at the podium
     
  4. jetsaholic1094

    jetsaholic1094 New Member

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    I think people care about press conferences way too much. What coaches say in front of the media isn't always what they're thinking or telling the players behind the locker room.
     
  5. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    It manifests itself on the field by the lack of meaningful adjustments by the CS of the original gameplanning. Its never the CS's fault in Mangina's opinion and I guess you have to have that POV but, the truth has a funny way of biting people in the ass who think like Mangina.
     
  6. e-x

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    i like mangini but his stubborn streak is wearing thin
     
  7. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

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    Even Belicheat makes adjustments. So if Mangina is a clone of Bill, why doesn't he make adjustments? They clearly do not make adjustments, and this CS is putting a team with decent talent in terrible positions. The Jets may not be a loaded team, but they are by no means talentless.
     
  8. JetsLookingforDWare

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    What exactly is owning up? Going back in time and doing what you guys think he should have done...which you only came up with after you saw what he did fail?
     
  9. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    If we see what he's doing in game is not working, having a better view than we do of course, and there is a collective agreement that something should be tweaked, or at least attempted for a series?

    Its called adjusting... have you seen adjusting during a game this year that was prevalent and efficient?

    Stop asking questions.
     
  10. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    Mangini is an assshole lets face it....both personality-wise and coaching-wise
     
  11. JetsLookingforDWare

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    Running worked on the Raiders. Remember we came out with the pass in mind that game...the spread the whole opening series...most of it w/e? Didn't win, but that doesn't mean the "adjustment" worked. The Raiders were ready for the pass, and with a secondary *that talented* (and they are talented) all they really did was play like they should all the time...for a game...against us...tough.

    Whatever we did against the Pats. We shoulda/coulda/woulda won that game.

    3 out of 4 quarters of the Cards games.

    And why would I stop answering questions? TF is there to be certain about when we haven't even played half of the season?

    If fuckin...Socrates could do it then I can.
     
  12. Gloom N Doom

    Gloom N Doom Member

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    Only Mangini can look worse after a win than after a loss.
     
  13. JetsLookingforDWare

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    I wonder if it's cause the people supporting the team he coaches can't even give him credit for getting the job done at the end of the day. It's corny and shit, but a win is a win is a win.

    No one gave a fuck when the Raiders had to kick a franchise record setting FG to beat us. No one gave a fuck if that did it in overtime after blowing a lead in the last minute of the 4th at home.

    It was just a loss.

    But a win has to be absolute fuckin domination. We weren't "supposed" to dominate the Cardinals like we did, but we did. Are we dominant because we did?
     
  14. Gloom N Doom

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    Can't agree. This should have been a "statement " win.
    But the only "statement" that was put out was that even the dregs of the NFL can come in and have a real good shot at a victory if not for a circus catch with one minute to go.
     
  15. JetsLookingforDWare

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    Wow. Categorizing wins? Seriously?

    And um...wake up...that "statement" was made years ago...by us actually...remember? It was actually the 40th anniversary of that on Sunday...Daily News sent out a little magazine thing...the guys on the team then came to watch todays game?

    Seriously...you're complaining more about an almost lost in your...world I guess...yet there is no "almost win" is there?
     
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    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    fact is they played terrible today, they turned the ball over too many times and didnt utilize the running game nearly as much as they should have. i think they tried to play cat and mouse with the chefs as the chefs cannot stop the run at all. so the jets probably figured they would be geared up to stop the run so they threw the ball.... to the other team... time and time again. then finally in the second half the decided to run the ball a LITTLE BIT.

    WORST RUN DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE AND WE DONT EVEN TRY TO RUN????? please explain that.

    i am beginning to agree with you jonnyd, the definitely is an asshole personality wise, i really am starting to think he is the same way in every situation.
     
  17. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Statement wins scare other teams. I'm not afraid of the Jets. I don't think the Rams are either. Buffalo is thinking "this is a get back on track game"
     
  18. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    If he blamed the play call, he's throwing his OC under the bus. I don't think there's any reason to get on him for what he says there. Mangini is good at saying nothing. We know this in the preseason. Guess what? It's still true.
     
  19. Rod_2

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    I agree with the say nothing part. But making sound as if the players aren't doing there job and the CS is, isn't a good thing.
    I'm wondering if his attitude is the reason why he was second to only tom coughlin as the coach players least like to play for.
     
  20. ScotsJet

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    Problem is that what people want is for what he does to work. The complaints against Mangini this season:

    * The offensive playcalling is too conservative
    * The offensive playcalling is too aggressive
    * The offensive playcalling focusses on the run too much
    * The offensive playcalling focusses on the pass too much
    * The defensive playcalling is too passive
    * The defensive playcalling is too risky
    * Special teams play isn't good enough
    * Relying too much on good special teams play
    * Too much dink 'n' dunk
    * Too many risky throws leading to picks

    Maybe if the critics had a logical train of thought beyond their 20:20 hindsight they'd be worth paying attention to. As it is, they're not.

    We had NO blocking TEs available to play yesterday and we should've run the ball more? OK then, whatever.
     

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