I understand everyone is on Sutton right now for the way this defense has played so far. However I do not think the points Arizona put up is a good measure. Our defense wreaked havoc forcing what 5 turnovers? You have to understand Arizona is going to be a high scoring offense. But the gameplan was perfect. They were extremely aggressive and IMO put the offense in a position to play with such confidence. If the defensive gameplan was a conservative one it would have been a totally different game and the Jets may well have lost today. Get off Suttons back. Give him until at least week 8 to make a fire Sutton claim...
The defense has always improved after the BYE week with Mangini... Hopefully with an early BYE week the defense will be like the 1st half defense we saw.
The bottom line is that the defense is getting killed and its totally uncalled for...People are looking at the score and not realizing what actually went on.....I'll say it time and again...If the defense doesnt play the way they played today the Jets lose the game....The offensive production does not happen if the defense doesnt force turnovers....PERIOD....
my concern with Sutton is his 'consistency'.....the defense played great in the first half of today's game...but where was it last week against the Chargers or in the 3rd quarter of today's game with the Cards. I would prefer a more aggressive DC than Sutton...he's too conservative....and it will end up costing the Jets "wins" in the long run. We need a DC like the Giants' Steve Spagnolo or the Eagles' Jim Johnson....or even another 3-4 specialist like the Steelers' Dick Lebeau.
It's the consistency of the playcalling that's really a worry to me. It was obvious that some more guys were dropping into coverage in the third, letting Warner pick them apart. With Revis and Rhodes hawking the secondary, you just have to trust them back there and concentrate on going for the jugular. They got a little better with that in the 4th, but it could still cost us a win down the line.
Sutton is garbage. Brett Favre actually made this inept coaching staff look good today. We are pretty close though on defense. 1 good corner and one good saftey and this secondary is set. Its no surprise that teams are directing most of their plass plays at 2 players in particular: Barrett and Lowery. Props to AZ's coaching staff though. They totally exploited the weaknesses our D has. Lets hope we can change some of the crap defensive scheme that hasnt been working so far and go back to more man to man with safety help over the top. This zone garbage is destroying us.
Keep in mind, it's against Kurt frickin' Warner, who basically gift wraps fumbles for other teams. If the Jets DIDN'T get a bunch of turnovers, I'd be worried.
The simple rule of playing defense in NFL is this: If you give ANY QB sufficient time to pick your defense apart, HE WILL. Ask Rex Ryan. He will tell you exactly the same thing. This simply means one thing: limit the time the QB can have with the ball in his hand. Attack the QB. If the QB can have more than 3 seconds in the pocket, unless his WRs are totally worthless, he will complete a pass. Ideal time to give to opposing QBs is about 1.5 secs after the snap. This is partly because if the QB doesn't have enough time in his hand, his checks will be hampered; what's more important is, however, that not many plays develop properly within 1.5 second span. This is how you bust the offensive game plan in general - force your will on the opposing Offense, and don't let them have it their way. With this in mind, watch the 3rd quarter again. Warner had all the time in the world in the second half, and he picked the defense apart at will. The problem with Sutton is... that he stops attacking the QB, and reacts to what the QB does. That's NOT how you spell Elite Defense.
:beer: I'm not necessarily calling for Sutton's head turk, but if he doesn't learn to adapt and keep exploiting his opponents' weaknesses, I may join that train. We just have too much talent on D to be giving up 35 points this game. The Cards have a potent offense, but when you see that you're making Kurt Warner (who had been excellent up until this game) piss his pants, you keep going until the clock runs out.
he's right, Turk....the Cards had no business scoring 3 TD's in the 3rd quarter....Sutton should've been better prepared to shut them down.....if our offense wasn't clicking, we would've been dead in the water.
The defense was absolutely phenomenal in the first half. The second half was troubling, but I take more positives from the game than negatives from the defensive side of things for sure. <--- See there.
There was absolutely NO REASON for the defense to completely lie down and die after the first half. Fish spoil from the head first, so it's all on Sutton. We won't make the playoffs by giving every QB 300+ yards and 30+ points.
For the record I am NOT a fan of Bob Sutton. But I think the first half performance of the D keeps him safe for a bit longer. I still can't for the life of me figure out why he goes into this prevent defense. Keep our D scheme, but for fuck sake, don't change what is working when we have the lead. 10 yard CB cushions do not work in this league. Mangini needs to step up and tell Sutton to use his fuckin head.
If I'm the opposing team, Sutton's plan doesn't scare me. He doesn't scare anyone. The players will make him look good, but what does that say? A great DC makes this D elite. What we saw from the D is old hat- Sutton going prevent, taking the fear out of the game, playing finesse football.... no rings come with finesse football. Find me the DC who can keep it going all game. The Jets may have put up 56 pts, but if I'm the opposing team I'm saying, "Our offense is better than Zona, so is our QB, and our D is never letting that happen, we can win this game" I'd like this: "Shit, this one isn't going to be easy, gotta bring my "A" game for this one." Sutton gives the NFL the former, I want the latter... go get me that DC.
There are good examples of prevent defenses and bad examples of prevent defenses. I would suggest that 35 points in a half is a bad example of a prevent defense. Do you think giving up 35 points in the second half was part of the Jets plans? I don't advocate firing the coaches, however, I can't believe that the "D" side of the coaching staff can be all that happy with letting up 5 TD's in the second half. Obviously the TO's were a positive, but even a prevent defense is not supposed to give up TD's at an everage rate of one every three minutes.
