1. Who'd be paying attention for it on a Jets board? and 2. Does not having his named called make him a bad player? Anyway...his name was called when he blew up a play along with Thomas early on...
He hasn't made an impact play or even shown something remotely resembling a glimpse of brilliance in the regular season or the preseason that i can remember. It's not alarming yet since the play of our front seven has been outstanding, but it'll be interesting to see how he progresses as the season goes on.
Mayo's role in Patriot's team is as same as Eric Barton's in our team. Two totally different players. There was no way Jets were going to spend top 6 picks to pick up a MLB when we already have David Harris and Eric Barton is a very capable #2 MLB. Picking up a MLB is also an easier find than a rushing OLB.
My point is that his impact was minimal. He might be in every defensive play cause really the Pats don't have many options ... he's doing his job, but he isn't standing out either. Either way, he is an ILB so he can make an immediate transition to the NFL. Gholston was a 4-3 DE and now we're asking him to play 3-4 OLB which is a completely different scenario. Now a valid gripe could be, "Why don't we stop experimenting and getting project players and just draft someone that fits the freaking role we need?!" Well, its a fair complaint... but sometimes you gotta take a chance. Its fine though, Thomas and Pace are tearing it apart, so Gholston can be brought along slowly... I honestly don't expect much contribution from Gholston this year, and I don't think that's a bad thing. I think for the most part this FO has done a good job drafting, but no one gets all of them right, so lets cut them some slack, cause I think they've done a pretty good job navigating the draft boards so far.
Well Gholston does fit the role that we put him in. Who are the top 3-4 OLB's in NFL? Shawn Merriman, Demarcus Ware, Terrell Suggs, and Shaun Phillips. What do they all have in common? They all played 4-3 DE in college. I don't want to hear about the lame he is learning a new position excuse. That's not the problem. The problems is that he is doing the same stupid move all the time. He needs to practice, practice, and practice while we have some patient.
Hmmm.... D. Ware was a monster ... I remember his rookie pre-season he forced like 2 fumbles and just caused havock. I guess I'm not overly concerned because we do have B. Thomas and Pace right now... but if one of them were to go on IR tomorrow then yes, I'd say we're in some serious trouble. I think Ghostlon needs to slim down a bit.. he looks too bulky and uncoordinated out there...
The biggest joke of all was all the talk prior to the draft that Belicheat was "desperate" to trade up in front of the Jets just so the Pats could take V. Gholston and keep him out of our hands....
Gholston is Dewayne Robertson II. He played pretty good in college and his stock soared because of the workouts. Now if only he was a bodybuilder instead of a football player.
Gholston broke the Ohio State sack record and solidified his position in the top 10 with the workouts, Robertson was a dominate player who was helped by the workouts and then was traded up for. Big difference.
It was not a jaw dropping workout. After the workout he closed the gap between him and Chris Long. Regardless of the workout, he was going to be a top 10 pick. In his last year as a Buckeye, he picked up I think 14.5 sacks and 15 tackles for loss. The year before he had I believe 8.5 sacks, 15 tackles for loss, 1 int.
I think it's pretty obvious it's easier to adapt from college to the pros as an ilb, ie David Harris. Pass rushers always take longer...im not worried, the good thing is the reason he's failing right now is because he's lost and doesn't understand where he's supposed to go. He's slow because he has to think about everything. But once he gets it and starts playing on instincts...he will be dangerous
I agree with you that we should wait and see, and I am certainly not ready to call him a bust at all. I agree with one of the posters that you have to wait until his third season, and see how he plays then and that will give you a good perspective on what kind of player that he is. However, he is not always lined up over the left tackle. The Jets have put him in different positions during the preseason and regular season. He has been over the left tackle, right tackle, tight end, in the middle etc. And as of this point, I am not impressed. Thats not saying he isn't going to be a good player, but it definitely has not looked good so far.
I live in Ohio and even the people here say we way over paid for him. No way we should have picked him.
Guys, guys come on don't be like everyone else in other blogs asking for OC Schotty to be fired and Mangini to be fired and VG a bust after only two games. I mean we've already demanded and received some major changes in our special teams, right. One thing Mangini IS is loyal almost to a fault and it will be great for Gohlston. I mean talk about a New York minute !! Gohlston is Huge (ability and size) and along with Pace and Thomas no one, I mean NONE in the NFL will equal our front seven next year !! How's this to wet your appetite...Ellis, Harris, Pace, Thomas, Gohlston and our #1 pick next to Jenkins. Not bad eh?
1. What is this fetish for "standing out?" He's a rookie playing his second game...and he's been productive....just cause you choose not to notice him doesn't mean he's not there...makes sense right? 2. DeMarcus Ware. Shawne Merriman. Kamerion Wimbley. Anthony Spencer. Manny Lawson. All college DE's. All playing linebacker for their teams now. 3-4 teams go after undersized, college DE's for a reason...and it's because pass rushing is a major skill for the OLB. Few LBers can rush the passer well enough to be used outside for 3-4 teams.
Ehh, big deal. So he's 5th on their career sack totals list. Three of the guys ahead of him didn't amount to anything in the NFL. Art Schlichter holds the Ohio State record for career passing yards. He's as big a bust as there ever was in the NFL. Mike Nugent is Ohio State's all-time leading scorer and Archie Griffin is their leading rusher. Neither were very good in the NFL.
My point was that he wasn't drafted because he has big muscles. He showed he was a very good football player at the college level, and that's a big part of what earned him the #6 pick. I have no clue whether he'll be good or not at the NFL level, but either way I don't think it's appropriate to label him a "workout warrior".
