Conservative coaching

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  1. Tony

    Tony Bipedal, Reformed

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    Prior to watching the Jets suck out last Sunday, I watched the Vikings-Colts game. Brad Childress should be ASHAMED of himself for the way he coached that game. It was way worse that what Mangini did.

    However, Mangini had better take a strong look at his coaching style. There is certainly a time to go conservative, but he's been doing it WAY too much recently. The only way this team is going to win this year is with an aggressive style of play on both offense AND defense, and yet we have seen little of that this year. You don't go out and get Brett Favre so that you can feature Thomas Jones. Jones isn't good enough to carry this offense. That job falls to Favre. Use the run to augment the passing game, but make the passing game the primary method of attack.

    This Monday will be very telling of our coach. There is simply o way our defense is going to stop the Chargers offense, so it falls on the offense to win this game, and they won't do it by crawling in their shell and running the ball up the gut. They have to make big plays offensively, and it has to fall on Favre to do it. I know he doesn't know many of the plays still (75% of the playbook my ass), but they'll have to make it work somehow.

    Mangini's coaching is on teh line here.Over the next few weeks we are going to find out a lot about our coach. Me, I'm not feeling very confident in him.
     
  2. Cman7zero

    Cman7zero The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    The Jets never use their entire playbook anyways Tone... :)

    I agree that Mangini has been coaching from the "play not to lose" book authored by our old buddy Herm. This will be a telling year indeed man. It will be interesting to see what happens as time goes on. If Mangini is hell bent on being a belichek clone and fails, Woody had better be ready to push some buttons. Especially if he's planning on selling alot of those PSL's next year for 2010.

    Even the Jets can't overcharge for a loser..

    Hope all is well with your rehab pardner!!
     
  3. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Personally I think Woody should force Mangini to run 5 laps at full speed wearing a sign I will no longer coach like a jackass
     
  4. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Do you want him to learn a lesson or die of a heart attack?
     
  5. championjets69

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    Since I never want to see anybody die I will take ur option A
     
  6. Br4d

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    This is actually a really good idea. When you run a very demanding system with frequent punishment laps as one of the conditioning tools it's easy to forget the purpose of the punishment laps, which is to make players produce what the system demands.

    I think 5 fast laps for Mangini with the mantra "coach better, coach smarter, coach more agressively" running through his mind as he was doing them might finally get the point accross to him that he is coaching like a guy who is going to lose his job at some point fairly soon. You want a system where physical stress causes faster learning? Well, that should apply to the coaches too when the coaches aren't performing the way they should be.

    And no I don't think he'd have a heart attack.
     
  7. youraveragejoe29

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    i completely agree but i am hoping that the conservative play has more to do with the fact that bretts only been on this team for about a month. also, we have played two division rivals that most likely know us better then any other teams in the league. i was disgusted at the playcalling at first too.. but the more i think about it, im not very surprised that mangini wasnt just gona let brett try and gunsling our way to the victory against one of the best defensive minds in football.

    i think we have a lot to look forward to this week. just look how cutler tore apart that san diego defense. plus, the chargers can put up points on pretty much anybody, so we might be forced into opening up our game a little bit. should be fun to watch.
     
  8. hazmat

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    We still passed the ball a lot more then we ran it. I doubt the coaching staff didn't want to go down field more often. The Pats defense probably forced the checkdowns.
     
  9. joejets1

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    I do agree that this Monday will be a big test for Mangini, the Chargers are near the bottom in most defensive categories. I think they are near the bottom in pass defene allowing around 290 yds a game in the air. I think which is the 2nd worst in the league. If Mangini fails to play to the weakness of the other team which is the passing game then we are going to get a sense of what kinda coach he is. No reason for the Jets not to air the ball out all game, Delhomme and Cutler have both lit up the Chargers secondary Favre easily can do the same, will he get the chance. Seems like in past instances the Jets would always go away from what common sense figures should be done.
     
  10. championjets69

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    They should not know as better as you stated since last year we did not have BF nor Fancea nor Woody nor Jenkins nor Page right?
     
  11. sec314

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    Favre is not ready to carry this team, we knew from the beginning that it would be a work in progress because he missed the whole off season. I had problems with the execution, not the play calling on offense. On defense, well that's another story. Until we figure out how to stop 3rd downs we are never going to a top defense. How could we be not prepared for screens to Welker.
     
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  12. championjets69

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    First off BF did not miss the "whole" off season. I think he had about 1 month of off season work @ Hofstra. Secondly at this stage of his career he probably has more FB knowledge stored away then Mangini, Shotty & Callahan have combined
     
  13. championjets69

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    I going to pose this question tomorrow to Cimini on his live chat & see if they accept it & answer it
     
  14. Sundayjack

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    Heh. Interesting when you look at it that way. Brett Favre played in his first Superbowl in 1996. Eric Mangini started as a go-fer for Bill Belichick in Cleveland in 1995.
     
  15. Justwinit

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    3 straight running plays from inside the 5, the Republicans call that CHANGE.
     
  16. championjets69

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    The way I see it Man & Shotty are miicro managing BF because they are fearful BF will show them up. Vanity run amok. JMHO
     
  17. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I think it was more like Mangini was afraid the hated Pats would light up their prize gem HOF QB pickup with INTs in week 2.
     
  18. championjets69

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    That is micro managing just saying it differently in case you did not realize that
     
  19. nyjcanada

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    let's bring in marty schotty so he can whip brian in the face a couple times like he did 30 years ago.

    maybe then he can game plan
     
  20. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I was in the Air Force for a decade, I am very familiar with micromanagement.
     

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