Let's end this circle jerk now. If anyone thinks that holding the Phins to 60 yards rushing is somehow worthy of elite-team status, you need your head examined. Phins = Sisters of the Blind. My dead dog could hold the Phins to 60 yards rushing. Chad did his thing with less support than he got from the Jets last year, and he had no WRs to throw to yesterday. The game is over; Chad is gone; the Phins still suck; get over it, dammit, and let's move on to the Pats, who will be the real litmus test for this team on BOTH sides of the ball. End rant.
the defense was depending on the clock to help them. you have to take the bull by the horns. one missed tackle and all your shemes about the clock go for naught. pressure is still the best way to neutralize a QB. coaches need to get a sack.
You can't blame the line when the coaches don't call for pressure and blitzes. I get the umbrella defense on the last play of game but not whole of last two drives!! Heat? Maybe, if thats the case send someone fresh in for a few plays.
When the game comes down to a last play, back corner of the end zone interception, you did not "thoroughly" outplay your opponent. We beat on them for two and a half quarters, then went into cruise mode. That garbage will work against the Phins, but do that against the Patriots, even with a second-string QB in there, and they'll bury you.
With all due respect, I think it had more to do with the heat, humidity and playing a soft defense that allowed Miami to get back into the game.
We thoroughly outplayed them for 3 and a half quarters, the game should not have come down to the last drive. The playcalling was bad at the end, I just finished watching the game again and I stand by my belief that the defensive play calling was due to the D being exhausted.
Originally Posted by AlioTheFool When the game comes down to a last play, back corner of the end zone interception, you did not "thoroughly" outplay your opponent. We beat on them for two and a half quarters, then went into cruise mode. That garbage will work against the Phins, but do that against the Patriots, even with a second-string QB in there, and they'll bury you. With all due respect - both teams played in the humidity and heat. If you say that the D gets tired more easily when it's hot then you do what you can to keep the offense on the field - ie. first downs. The point is that good teams don't allow other teams back into the game. And no I'm not trying to "complain" just to complain. Am I happy that the Jets won - of course. I just think that that the playcalling could definitely have been more aggressive so it didn't have to come down to first and 10 from the 18 yard line with :23 left. If Pennington completes that last pass or the WR does a better job actually going up for the ball rather than trying to tackle Revis (who made a fantastic play by the way) and the Jets lose the game then this forum would have been lit up with complaints. Yes I know that if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. In my mind a jumpball at the end of the game that happened to go the Jets way doesn't change the fact that (IMHO) the offense of the Jets should have been able to manage at least one first down in three tries during the fourth quarter.
Mangini almost threw that game away with the Prevent defense and offense. If our Defensive ends are this invisible v.s. the Phins what happens when we play good teams.
I think the coaching staff was relying on the secondary sitting back and picking off a weak downfield pass by Chad. like most said in this thread, the D-line was gassed. First game, 100 degrees, hurry-up offense all contributed to the lack of pass rush. I thought Mangini would use another TO to get the D-Line a rest but, the strategiy worked out in the end. Not sure anyone can say, If the defense plays like this we lose against X team. Every game is different and calls for different strategies and situations. The team did what they needed to do to win this particular game. 1-0 can't ask for more than that.
The defense dominated the offense for 3 quarters. I know if we were to have played this game in October Miami never would have had a chance in the 4th quarter. Should it have been this close? No, it shouldn't have. But we'll take the win, and look at what happened as to why the game was close. They were winded at the end of the game. That and the soft playcalling at the end of the game is why it was close. Those things will be fixed, I can assure you they will be.
Only a Jets fan could find a way to say our defense was embarrassed giving up 14 points on the road to a division opponent. We gave up less than 3 yards a carry to one of the best RB duos in the game and Pennington ended the game with a bloodied up mouth and dilated pupils. What an embarrassment!
But ... they ... must ... find ... a ... way .. to cry! So many fans have spent so long bitching its all they know how to do. Our corners looked great. Our run D was amazing. It gives me lots of hope for the up commign season. The scary part was our Offense was not able to keep the ball on the field late due to a penalty as much as any thing. I want to see our run game do this agains a better D line though. I hate having high hopes, but the events of this weekend are too much for my head right now.
the D was fine yesterday.....what 'd they have 4 sacks? held the phins to 49 yds rushing (That's key)........i agree with other that a combination of fatigue as well as some overly conservative play calling hurt them in the 4th....but overall a good effort. The d is only going to get better. Chad did his thing...we as Jet fans should undertand he is capable of making plays and moving the chains........that second TD he threw was just a great touch throw....his bread and butter. I was happy to see him play well, just not well enough to win
I could understand the whole "heat exhaustion" thing if: 1) We were the only team playing in the heat 2) We had never seen this sort of lax 4th quarter defense in every game coached by Sutton where we've had a lead. It's not complaining for complaining's sake. This team showed it has the talent to beat any other team in the league yesterday. I know that's a premature statement, but our corners are great, our LBs are going to harass QBs all year, our running game is as good as I thought it would be, and our passing attack is far better than it was a year ago. Given that, we should not have been holding our breath on the last throw by Chad Pennington. This playcalling is nothing different than we've seen every year under Sutton. Thinking it's going to have better results against better teams is just silly. And it won't change. Bend but don't break my ass.
playing d in the heat in the 4th is a lot harder than playing on offense...and the Jet's were on D for a good portion of the fourth.........so I don't get the "both teams playing in the same condidtions" thing. Again the conservative play calling on both O and D in the 4th almost burned us (along with a few bad false start penalties.changing that 3rd and 2 to 3rd and 7 was a killer)
Only thing about the D was the RE spot and Harris that looked weak. Loved it when Barton called Ricky Williams a bitch after taking him down
sorry to all of those who think captain check down actually exposed us. Chad is always going to complete those 5-7 yard dump offs and while the other defenders are trying to protect the deep routes , he completes a 4 yard-er and the receiver gets an extra 2-3 yards. Ill take those kinds of drives all day long. The key is we didn't bite on the short stuff leaving the middle open and the long passes that he did complete (one for 24 yards) was because we are actually aware of the running backs that are extremely good opening up the play action (Hey a broken clocks right twice a day). Sorry, Chad displayed exactly why he is no longer a Jet!!!
