Which Tight End do we cut or trade?

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  1. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    When it comes to runblocking:

    Brick - below average; Faneca - very good; Mangold - above average; Moore - below average; Woody - average

    makes a above average or a good line, but nothing special. Who cares where they were drafted?

    And please send me that tape where you saw that huge holes on saturday, that noone did run throu, i´m really curious to see that.
     
  2. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    It sounds like you are just in denial about Thomas Jones.
     
  3. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    sorry, what?
     
  4. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    It sounds like you believe that Thomas Jones is still a good RB and all of the problems with the running game are still the fault of the line. Rather then believing that maybe the problem is Jones and not the line.
     
  5. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    exactly. You can?t judge starting-RBs on Preseason games. Untill he struggles during the Season, I still think he?s a solid Workhorse. And if he struggles, we got good Depth there, so no need to worry.
     
  6. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    I haven't seen very large holes for Thomas Jones. Leon Washington isn't having much success either right now. I think they'll get it all sorted out by the time the season starts though.
     
  7. AfterChad

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    Pociask was the go to guy at Wisconsin over Owen Daniels, who's been having a nice career with Houston since they both were drafted. Theres probably more to him than we've seen thus far.
     
  8. man2man_cover

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    Keller, Baker, Franks, Posciak and Dearth. Dearth is an automatic roster spot because of his long-snapping consistency. Keller will destroy defenses a la Gonzalez and Winslow. Franks is a short-term keeper but will be valuable for this coming season. Baker better deliver or his salary drive will end up breaking down in the middle of the highway. Posciak is one of those over-achieving players that will find a way to contribute in SP.

    I was kind of hoping that Schable can be a SP terror but that hasn't materialized and he certainly won't be making the 53-man squad. Too bad.
     
  9. rmagedon

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    When I watched Mangini's Press Conference today, he said he will more than likely keep all 4 TE's. Rather, he wouldn't see why he couldn't roll into the season with 4 TE's. Jason has the ability to play FB depending on what the defense shows which add versatility to the playbook. So, if he's true to his word, I would think we'd roll into Week 1 with 4 TE's. (Dearth is a given, due to him being the LS).
     
  10. Favre4Ever

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    Franks is a quality goal line receiver and a very good run blocking TE. Not so sure I'd release him if I were Jets management, but I know very little about the other TEs on the roster.
     
  11. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You will never get over the fact that the Jets didn't follow your moronic advice and trade a first rounder for Michael Turner.
     
  12. packerbacker1234

    packerbacker1234 New Member

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    *sigh*, A common misconception is that Franks has stone hands, and is useless.

    Last season, for the Green Bay Packers, prior to getting injured, he was the leading reciever in the redzone, and had more TD's then any other recieving threat, including the starting TE (franks came in in two TE sets in the redzone).

    In fact, the play he got injured on, according to the head of referring a few days later, stated the refs made an obviously wrong call as franks cleary caught the ball 3 yards from the back of the endzone and was pushed out (a rule that no longer exists).

    I don't get how having Franks around takes away "needed" reps from anyone. If he was the starter, I could see a logical arguement. Keller would get severely less reps, and he is the future (and the present, obviously).

    All franks is doing is playing backup TE, and is out ont he field in two TE sets. How is that "hurting" your team? Can you name the 2nd TE on any other team? I know I can't. The 2nd TE is usually irrelevant except in the redzone, where franks has proven throughout his career to be lethal. I just don't get the argument how he hurts developement. Sorry, but YOUR GUY is starting, and getting all the reps he could ever want. The other guys just don't have much of a impact throughout a season. Franks was an exception last year till he got hurt.

    Keeping him around is not just about Favre, it would be about winning football games. The guy, like Favre, is a winner. He's been on winning teams. He has been a big reason for said team to win games. He's made big time catches in big time games. He's made key blocks to burst 50+ yard runs. The guy knows how to play the position, and the sole reason he wasn't the number 1 last year was due to his lack of speed between the 20's.

    Just saying, he's been a probowler I believe 3 times. He excelled as a redzone 2nd TE last season. I don't see the counter argument to this. The guys you have don't have his experience. The whole "commroderry with favre" is merely a bonus reason to keep him.

    Just saying - letting Franks go would be foolish. I think people are just overracting because he was the one called for illegal motion on the TD pass last weekend. Favre isn't the only player on your roster to have his whole career on another team and have this year be the first on a new one.

    As for who should be gone instead of franks? Posciak. Don't know about you guys, but I haven't seen much out of him, and he doesn't have the history of a Franks to back him up.

    Besides, Franks will be good for you guys short term. I am not saying keep him 5 years or anything, but it's clear the management is going for it all this season and next. Going for it right now. So, Posciak is the odd man out.

    Also, 4 te's were kept last year? Sorry, that just irks me a little. The 4th guy will never see the field save special teams, and thats bassically the case for the third guy. Just don't know about that decision. Don't moist teams only keep 3, practice squad the rest?
     
  13. CatoTheElder

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    Baker, Keller, and Franks are the main guys. Dearth stays as the longsnapper, and Posciak makes it as a TE/FB. Schable is the odd man out and Caulcrick hits the pratice squad until week 6 when the Giants lose Jacobs and Ward and sign him.
     
  14. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Don't worry, Franks isn't going anywhere.
     
  15. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    They will keep 4 TEs, they will run a lot of double tight sets this year.

    Plus I just heard Tannenbaum on the radio saying that keeping 4 TEs is not out of the question.
     
  16. Popeye's Army

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    I don't even consider Dearth a TE since he does nothing but LS.

    I think the Jets keep 4 guys: Baker, Keller, Franks and Pociask. Then we'd have the talent to run double TE formations, run block well and get some red zone TD's. Plus if Coles goes down we'd have the flexibility to go to a more TE oriented passing offense.

    Pociask has really progressed during the past year. He'd be a great #3 or maybe even a #2 TE down the road when Baker and/or Franks leave.
     
  17. vilmatic

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    This is most closely how I see it.
     
  18. SigmaXJet

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    I agree totally
     
  19. jetmetnet

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    franks is not going anywhere. hez still a decent te and hez translating the playbook (into packer terminology) for favre to make him understand it faster. plus, in some audible situation with clock winding down they may just use the packer terminology to get a big play :)
     
  20. Jetsfan 128099

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    Ls?

    What does LS mean?:wink:
     

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