Jeaux's Golden Boy Drew Carter Out for Season

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  1. NDmick

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    But the Raiders were 6th in rushing yards, so the thought process is a little confusing. Why add another RB if you're already that good, why not shore up an actual weakness?

    Thats where the rest of the NFL questions the old man's thinking.
     
  2. Hemi

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    So basically you are saying that Russell is not ready to light up the league?
     
  3. Hemi

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    Good Titans line? Didn't they let both starting DEs go in Free Agency. Odom was pretty good. Are you saying Jevon Kearse has found the fountain of youth. All they really have is Haynesworth.
     
  4. NJRaider

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    Ever heard of Kyle Vanden Bosh, 12 sacks last year? Kearse is the "other" DE on that team now...
     
  5. NJRaider

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    I understand if you're looking at the surface but Jordan was unreliable, Fargas is injury prone, and Bush is really an unknown commodity. Add to that the fact that nobody on that offense was a 'game changing' type of talent and it makes sense to grab McFadden. If he is what everyone says he is, guys like that don't come around every day, at any position.

    That's not even mentioning that fact that they obviously think they have something special in Tommy Kelly, and they paid him that way. That's another argument, but it plays into the thinking.
     
  6. Raiderjoe

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    Simple Raiders gave some big money to Tom Kelly to play W Sapp Undertackle position. Their DC Rob Ryan is on record saying Kelly IHO is the best three technique tackle in football. W Sapp also on record saying Tom Kelly best position is his undertackle. NOw you do know that the two top DTs in this year draft Dorsey and Ellis, best position is Undertackle. That would be stupid to invest that much money in one position.

    Now why does MCfadden make sense to Raiders even though they were sixth in rushing the football. ONe Raiders wanted to add as many playmakers as possible to offense to help their young franchise QB. (Mcfadden can take a dump off pass and possible take it to the house everytime he touches it. 2. Justin Fargas was very effective running the football ,but lets just say hes not the best pass reciever. Mcfaddedn and M Bush are going to be hugh for Raiders offense in this regard.(Raiders just been keeping these talents under wraps this preseason. 3. You can't be short sighted but have to look at the big picture. J russell and D Mcfadden are as good as advertised and your offense is looking explosive for the next decade.
     
  7. Raiderjoe

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    Russell dosen't have to this year as he not going to be asked to carry Raiders offense by himself. He has the running game to lean on. Jamarcus Russell basically still a rookie and he still needs better tackles. There is no doubt this Russell kid going to be a big time QB. Soon as they get the tackles to protect him, than you will see him and the passing offense really start to take off. Should be very explosive offense in the very near future.
     
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    The same running game that averaged 2 YPC last night with the 1st team?
     
  9. Hemi

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    Forgot about Vandenbosch, but they lost who Laboy and Odom. And brought in Kearse. I'm sorry, that line just does not scare anybody. Chip VB with a RB and double Haynesworth. The rest of the line is just average.
     
  10. NJRaider

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    They're not the fearsome foursome but any line with Haynesworth and Vanden Bosch is pretty good. If they get anything our of Kearse they could be special.
     
  11. NJRaider

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    Explain to me again why last night's rushing stats behind the 1st string O line are more important than what they produced in the first two games? Better yet, why is it more important than what they produced in 16 games last season?
     
  12. MBGreen

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    Then how do you explain the Raiders SHITTY season last year??!!

    they ran the ball well and played decent defense...they couldn't protect the ball because McCown and Culpepper were turnover machines....but according to your post...the Raiders should've been in the playoffs last year.

    Which only proves...when it comes to analyzing football...you're right up there with "Jerry's Kids".
     
  13. GreenMachine

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    Explain to me again why last night's rushing stats behind the 1st string O line are more important than what they produced in the first two games?


    Simple. The first 2 games the starting defenses only played 1 quarter. Last night the raiders starting Offense played 3 quarters.

    Better yet, why is it more important than what they produced in 16 games last season?

    even easier. Because this is not last year. Lasts years stats mean nothing.
     
  14. GreenMachine

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    And these are some wonderful quotes from the Faders HC:

     
  15. NDmick

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    ^ A coach with no faith in his players??? Wow, stuff like the trickles from the very top down.

    Wonder who I'm attacking...
     
  16. MBGreen

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    jesus, the ship is sinking already...

    "And with the 1st pick in the 2009 draft...the Oakland Raiders select............."
     
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    I'm here to educate as many as possible. ! Yes Raiders did run the ball very well last year but they didn't play defense as good as they did the previous year(injuries and some players not performing ujp to past years) contributed to their defense taking a big nose dive/ From sixth ranked defense in 2006 to somewhere in the late twentys. Kiffin point why he wanted to fire ROb Ryan was If you able to run the ball consistantly well and they got the defense he believed he was getting ,they should won enough games to be in contention for a playoff spot. You protect the football( something Raiders couldn't do last year) and add that to the two things i discussed and you are a playoff team.
     
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    So you're saying, if you do pretty much do the opposite of anything the raiders do, you will get a playoff spot.
     
  19. NJRaider

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    So what they established last year means nothing, what they did in the first two preseason games means nothing, but what they did in the 3rd preseason game, when the coach telegraphed that they would be all about the pass, that is how you should evaluate the running game? I can only assume you're funny because you can't really believe that.
     
  20. NJRaider

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    Here's another, since this thread seems to be about the running game now:

    Now I suppose you'll say they should show every formation and gadget play they may have in the third preseason game because the third preseason game is clearly more important that the opener in two weeks.
     

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