Ok Jets fans with all of the changes that we have made, the team is looking alot better on paper. Since we will not know how good this team really is till the season starts let just see how good we as a collective could make this team even better on paper by addressing the needs that are left before the draft and after the draft. These right now are are 4 biggest needs. RT and RG - I have done much research on this does anybody have any good info on this? Or know who would fill the spots well? WR - This spot needs a play maker because Coles can't do it anymore and Jericho an up and comer that will be great once we get things going. Brad Smith has the potential but just not yet. Chansi Stucki is the darkhorse if he can stay health and work his way into the rotation I can see him taking that number 3 wr spot from smith. Even though right now I have tied at the 3 spot anyway. But a good pick up would be Robert Ferguson in free agency. But if we were to go to the draft how about Malcolm Kelly or Devin Thomas. But at this position anybody is a gamble. Just look at Detroit and New England when they drafted Chad Johnson (where is he now?) CB - Now with Dyson gone and not getting Samuel or Law is he to be left out there by himself? Do you trust Justin Miller or Barrett to play that position full time. I really don't know about that. If we can resign Dyson again at a lower cost I am good with that for now till we draft a replacement like McKelvin, Cromartie, Cason, and Talib. Big need that needs to be filled to compliment Revis. Here are my thoughts on what the minor needs are: One of the the needs I we need is a full time starting quarterback. I think we do have 2 able and serviceable QBs with Klemens\Pennington. Do I think one of them is the future I am still on the fence with that. I think CP can get us to the playoffs as he as always done. Considering that the OL holds up, which it should with all the improvments we have done. Now with Klemens I think he can become the QB of the future for us if he can play behind a good line and get up to speed and work on his technique. I think any QB would have had a tough time behind the line we had but I think everybody knows that. Now how to make that situation better I would have to had a 3 QB that is seviceale and capable. I say we draft a QB in 2nd round to light a fire behind those 2. I would be happy with Flacco, Henne, Brohm, Ainge, and Brennan. Tight end is another one that I am on the fence with because I love Chris Baker and Kowalski but think we can go with one more at this position that we can get in a later round Like a Fred Davis from USC. But I also for got that we picked up Bubba Franks so we are kind of ok at that position but not totally solid. This position is more of a lower need now. Running back is something I have been hearing alot that people say we need but we do have TJ and LW and we just signed Chatman and Richardson. But I guess it wouldn't hurt to draft Mcfadden if he is availiable at 6 but wouldn't Gholston be a more logical need at the number 6spot? I say why not draft him and lets see its not like the gets aren't known for drafting running backs that are bust. But give me Mendenhal or Stewart over DMC. So for me its Gholston at 6 unless we can trade down and get Mendenhal or Stewart. Well feel free to say on how you could make this team better because what I have listed I believe everyone knows or has their own opinion so share it.
QB,RB,TE to me are less needed than the D. I'll put a WR above them, someone who is a year away from wowing the NFL, and Cotch to compliment him while Coles bows out of a good career and retires as a Jet. CB is still needed, but i feel a pass rush can make the CBs better. Even Champ Bailey can't look immortal if the pash rush isn't there. So let's get the opposing QB scared so he makes mistakes. LT is set for 10 years, i don't care what anyone's opinion is- that FO won't get rid of Brick unless he gives up 13 sacks a year. If he gives up 8 a year he stays. RT needs to be drafted, either this year or next. With a defensive minded coach, we will be more likely to go Defense in terms of need.
Sorry my bad It was suppose to be RT and RG. But I agree with you there with the LT. So I take you you want Gholston at 6?
Haha I agree that RG is a need as well, even though Moore was signed to an extension it'd be nice to have someone drafted next year for Guard play. Gholston is my choice, DMC comes in 2nd... but i honestly don't know who is going to be an amazing player outside of Dorsey and both Longs in the top 10 players-- everyone else has too many questions. Calvin Johnson had NO questions last year as did Joe Thomas and even LaRon Landry. This year the "best" guys are being moved around more this year than last... Last year there were 3 guys that no one minded paying #1 overall for- Russell, Johnson, Thomas... this year, no one wants that pick.
Because there is no one really worth that money other than Long and Long. DMC is getting his hype because of what adrian peterson did last year. I would take Mendenhal and Stewart over DMC but that is my personal preference because DMC looks fragile and I don't think he will be worth that money at that spot. I say get rid of the pick and get more picks get the fillers that we need.
The money is always the problem. That should be remedied with the new CBA. Draft Picks need a fixed income at where they are selected. Whoever is the big flashy rookie will create the trend for next years draft. More picks would be nice, but getting them is the problem. Hopefully one of our guys is there.
I think that we will not have a chance until the 4th round for OTs or OGs OTs (Draft Scout) John Greco, Toledo - Round 3-4, Height: 6-5; Wt: 305 Forty: 5.29 Oniel Cousins, Texas-El Paso - Round 3-4 Height: 6-4, Wt: 308 Forty: 5.11 Tony Hills, Texas - Round 4, Height: 6-5, Wt: 309, Forty: 5.16 Jeremy Zuttah, Rutgers - Round 4, Height: 6-4, Wt: 303, Forty: 4.99 Kirk Barton, Ohio State - Round 4, Height: 6-5, Wt: 310, Forty: 5.28 Breno Giacomini - Louisville - Round 4-5, Height: 6-7, Wt: 303, Forty 5.20 Brandon Keith - Northern Iowa, Round 5, Height: 6-5, Wt: 343, Forty: 5.27 King Dunlap - Auburn, Round 5-6; Height: 6-9, Wt: 310, Forty: 5.28 Pedro Sosa - Rutgers, Round 5-6, Height: 6-4, Wt: 300, Forty 5.29 OGs (Draft Scout) Mike McGlynn - Pittsburgh, Round 3-4, Height: 6-4, Wt: 311, Forty: 5.38 Donald Thomas - Connecticut, Round 3-4, Height: 6-4, Wt: 303, Forty: 5.00 Eric Young - Tennessee, Round 4, Height: 6-4, Wt: 310, Forty: 5.18 Robert Felton - Arkansas, Round 4-5, Ht: 6-4, Wt: 315, Forty: 5.51 Drew Radovich - Southern Cal, Round 5, Ht: 6-5, Wt: 301, Forty: 5.33 Chad Rinehart - Northern Iowa, Round 5-6, Ht: 6-5, Wt: 320, Forty: 5.42 Chris McDuffie - Clemson, Round 6, Ht: 6-4, Wt: 330, Forty: 5.30 Mike Gibson - California, Round 6-7, Ht: 6-4, Wt: 305, Forty:
How is rt a need, we just payed Woody 5 mil a year to be that guy. RG is ok Moore is decent and you dont need 5 studs. Id say needs go in this order 1. starting Fs 2.#2 cb. 3. ILB next to harris 4.O line depth 5.3-4 line depth (eventual replacemet) 6. Olb depth, push Thomas. Notice no Wr or Rb although if DMC is available id think twice about passing him up. No Wr because Coles has 2 decent years left and i believe stuckey can at least be that slot guy if given the chance. Just my take.
Take Zuttah in the 4th. He can play all interior positions on the line and would really solidify the depth there.
I don't know how people don't think ILB is a major need for us. I hope our coaching staff does. Lofton in the second would be a nice addition.
RT is a need. Moore is only decent when he has great players around him. Woody can play RG and RT. Faneca and Woody are not getting younger. So you shift Woody back to RG, draft a stud RT, and Moore is a backup. That addresses RG, RT, and Oline Depth in one signing. The fact is Moore should only be a depth player, he would not be a starter on any championship Oline in the league. That would give you studs on LT, C, and RT for the next decade. The unfortunate part is that past the top half of the 2nd round the OL talent drops off dramatically. I would make a serious play for Gosder, he is the best RT prospect in pretty good OT draft and is going to be a great player. Other than that, well look at my sig to see what I think are our needs.
I agree. If we could Gholston in the first, and Lofton in second, our defense will be leaps and bounds better. Possibly a top 5-10 D.
i just think we need a big play guy at wr. somebody to stretch the field. we don't have anybody to fit that criteria on the team. bring back wesley walker!!!
To try to win now I'd draft a pass-rushing ROLB, a WR and a big RDE. That'd put Bryan Thomas and Kenyon Coleman where they belong which is as rotation guys and depth. I'd use Coles in the slot to maximise his effectiveness and I'd use a lot of 3 wideout formations to spread out the defense for the running game. Both Jones and Washington are more than capable of excelling in a one-back pass to setup the run type offense. I'd figure out an option at CB in camp and accept the fact that no matter who you put back there opposite Revis will be fine if the passrush is working and will be toast if it's not. I'd let Woody play RT alongside Moore for now and I'd hope that Bender could actually put some pressure on one of them in camp. Realistically offensive linemen take a year to develope most of the time and drafting somebody after signing Woody probably doesn't give us a significantly better chance of having the line workout for 2008. If we hadn't signed Woody we'd need to draft a RT though. Assuming the Jets are thinking long-term build mode (meaning win in 2009 or 2010 at the latest) then I'd draft a RDE, a big lineman for the right side of the offensive line, and a quarterback in the 3rd round to attempt to identify a strong option at QB if Clemens washes out. Those are the areas on the Jets right now that are most likely to be weaknesses in a year or two and you can usually find a good WR in free agency when you need one.
In terms of need: QB - not this year; if we can get a legit future starter with a 4th, that is as early as I'd take a QB RB - not this year, but it seems like a deep draft for RB; if McFadden is available at 6, I think you have to at least consider it; while I think T. Jones can have a better year with a revamped OL (and he showed some nice stretches last year w/ little room to run), he may be the only every down RB on the roster (and he's around 30) and so a pick for depth would not surprise me WR - to me, this is a big need. Coles and Cotchery are the only two proven WRs, and neither one is a burner these days to stretch the offense. Smith and Stuckey may be legit WR, but are not proven commodities. I would not be upset if we took the best WR off the Board in the 2nd round. TE - I'm OK w/ what we have. Perhaps a 4th or 5th round pick for depth. I like C. Baker and actually think the Jets would be better off throwing to him more often OL - Just for depth; I think we are OK for now given the huge investment in Faneca and Woody (and Ferguson and Mangold are set). We'll see how Moore does with better guys around him. Given Faneca and Woody's age, however, one or two mid-round picks for depth would make sense, and they could come in and learn technique from some real pros. (Caveat - forget everything if Jake Long falls to 6 - I'd grab him, move Woody to guard, use Moore as backup, and consider the OL set for a least a few years.) DE/OLB - A need. Gholston seems like the best of the lot. If we don't pick him (or C. Long) in the 1st round, we need to draft a pass rusher in the 2nd round. While I think Jenkins and Pace will be good pickups, they will not produce sacks in large numbers; we need another rusher. DT/ILB - We are set at starter and backup at NT, and I think we are in good shape in the middle (Harris is a beast). Sometimes a very good ILB will fall to the middle rounds because they are undervalued - I would not be upset with this route. DB - If we trade down in the 1st round, I'd be open to taking a top CB to put opposite Revis. From what I've read, 6 is too high for anybody on the board now. While I wouldn't cry if we went CB with our high 2nd round pick, my preference would be to use the 1st two picks on an offensive game-breaker and a pass rusher (in either order). Would've been nice if we got Samuel. I think we are set with Revis and Rhodes (sign him up now!) - the other guys are OK but nothing special (would be better if we had a better rush). Mike
Everytime I see this thread title all I thinking is.. "Let's talk about need baby...Let's talk about you and me." :rofl2:
