I think I feel for one owner here -- John Mara of the Giants. It's going to sound silly to have mercy on an owner, particularly one who is two years from occupying a shiny new stadium. But here's a guy who is sick about what he knows he's going to have to do, which is to make some segment of his decades-old fan base (maybe 30,000 or 35,000 fans) pay for personal-seat licenses in the new stadium. Imagine a season-ticket holder since 1952 getting a letter in the mail asking for $25,000 (I made this number up; I don't think the Giants know yet how much they'll charge per seat, nor how many seats they'll make the season subscribers cover) for every season ticket. I've known Mara for a while, and I can tell you this is something that will keep him up nights. But in this climate, with the economy being what it is, the Giants and Jets will both have to charge the fans chunks for this billion-dollar stadium.
he feels for the fact that Mara doesn't like what he is doing to his own fans. Mara actually has a heart and doesn't want to charge the fans the PSL's, but he has to because of the bottom line. Mara has to do something he personally doesn't want to. Sucks for Mara and his fans.
That's BS. mara doesn't have to charge PSL's, I don't think Kraft did in NE and he didn't have the help of a 2nd team. We have TWO teams, they are getting double the money from the NFL. There should NOT be any PSL's exzcept for the fact that these owners are greedy and don't care about the fans. They are forcing the real fans out to make the atmosphere more corporate. As bad an owenr as leon hess was this never would have happened under him and if Wellington Mara was still alive it wouldn't happen for the Giants.
these psl's may end our family having season tickets since 1965, pardon my french but what a fucking shame
You're right- I don't think that he did. Instead Kraft bangs his loyal fans for $40 per game just to park at the stadium. Do you own an RV? That will be $125 please. I don't know if their concession stand prices are any higher.
I'm with junc 100% here - if Mara really doesn't want to have PSLs, all he has to do is not have them. The idea that he is somehow being "forced" into it is ridiculous, particularly in a situation where he's only paying half of the cost of the stadium.
Actually Kraft socked it to the Pat fans more since he spiked the price per tix to like almost double that the Pat fan will pay forever whereas the PSL here maybe only a one time charge. So if you figure Kraft double the price use $100.00 per game X 10 games equals $1,000.00 PER YEAR. Now extend that out 10 years & the PSL was $10,000.00 for Pat fans. Extend it out further to 15 years & the Pat fans were socked for $15,000.00 . I'm sure you can do the math for 20 or more years as well using the same equation I posted above
They also won 2 Championships since that building opened. We are going to continue to see our ticket prices raised whether we ever win a SB or not so we'll have high ticket prices AND PSL's to deal w/ instead of just high ticket prices.
No and Yes. The point is that instead of outright charging in PSLs, Kraft can disguise it in insane prices everywhere else. Tix, concessions, parking, merch, and any other means of income. He will get his $$, he just has another way to get it. Our prices will continue to rise like the rest of the NFL, but no one comes close to the pats right now. Believe me i looked at the #s in sports economics, they are ahead of the pack by alot.
i agree, it is a fuckin shame. i've had 4 seats in section 111, since 1980. i can't afford to pay a PSL, especially for 4 seats. i, like you, have supported this team through more crappy seasons then good ones. this is the payback for loyalty. 2 teams sharing in the cost, plus the naming rights $, and the sale of all the new luxary boxes, should be all that pays for this stadium.
And the jets should pay attention to what happened in New England this season. More than a few "meaningless" games were significantly unattended. As one of my friends from Boston told me, "Winning has something to do with the apathy, but they've also driven out a lot of hardcore fans and replaced them [not] with corporate buyers." It is insulting that fans who've paid tens of thousands of dollars for tickets over 20 years and more are being required to demonstrate their loyalty again. Woody Beware!
Really you rather pay double or triple to the owner then just a straight up one time charge per seat? You must be really one of the those rich dudes to want to pay 20Gs or more instead of 5Gs in a one time shot
It was a joke. I am just pointing out the fact that they say due to the economy they will have to charge more. Well if the economy sucks, do you think it only affects the owners? Raising prices doesn't help the average joe make a game.
Im not sure what PSLs are- so if someone could tell me that would be great. But if owners had a clue about football they would do everything in their power to allow their team to enjoy the greatest home field advantage possible. THey wouldnt do anything to turn away the die hards and replace them with corporate stooges. But most of these spineless monkeys have no understanding of sports and actually have no understanding of anything. They are children of privilege and a great deal of them havent done anything but inherited large amounts of money.
Football is a BUSINESS. I'm not thrilled that these guys are probably getting a slew of tax breaks to remain in Jersey, but really, what did you expect? They're building a stadium and financing it. I am fairly certain that Woody Johnson bought this team with his eye on a West Side Stadium in New York. I think that was his big vision. I think for him, it has always been about the business end of it. Because Kraft did not charge PSL's does not mean he didn't make up the money elsewhere. Wake Up. Neither team is opening a new stadium in order to placate their fan base, just as you wouldn't open a pizza shop and charge fifty cents a slice to excite local pizza enthusiasts. It's an economic reality that sporting events are expensive, particularly in the tri-state area. With revenue sharing in the NFL, teams use luxury boxes and corporate sponsorship as a way of filling their own coffers. Season tickets, put simply, are not a God given right. It's unfortunate, but it's part of having a nice new stadium. Essentially, in this day and age, it's one or the other. -X-
