Ross Tucker and his BS about Faneca

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  1. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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  2. SameOldJets2008

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    This is bull, not only will faneca make "one or two" more plays a game, he will go a LONG way in developing two young studs we have and help them reach thier potential. Id rather "overpay" for a guy that will not only make a difference with is plays but also help develop his teammates.
     
  3. notjustQBs

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    I think that a player's confidence and his reputation on the field is what sets him apart for a team that doesn't have those things at that position.

    Let's try and remember, fellow fanatics, that our football is really just a game, and that perception is often far more important than reality.

    Sometimes things happen on that field that seem miraculous only because all the viewers had no such expectation, and the players involved were determined to make it happen. Mr. Tyree is a perfect example of this.

    "Great" players are those that string together several of these willful actions that result in a play's success.

    If you are analytical and can dissect with dispassion, then it is easy as hell to pull the wings and then the legs off the bug of the play.

    However, you are no closer to the essence of that play, just because you've pulled it apart, piece by ugly piece.

    Faneca instills faith and confidence in his teammates that he will hold his own. He has been in a myriad of situations and he has an inkling of what to do now in most of them.

    Planting Faneca firmly with a major monetary contract in the belly of the NYJ OL in effect bestows his confidence and experience and luck of execution on every other member of that OL. He represents in all these elements things that they don't have to supplant themselves with their own effort in every play.

    Faneca's rep and body of work thereby empowers the entire line. They all will have more confidence collectively because he is there doing what Faneca does.

    This is worth the money.
     
  4. Joe Willie White Shoes

    Joe Willie White Shoes Well-Known Member

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    This is one of the more ridiculous articles I have ever read about NFL football. First of all, if the difference between Tucker and elite linemen were so small, why did he play for 5 teams is 7 years???? Second, why do the same teams have top offensive lines year after year and win??? Third to say a player like Hutchinson makes one or two more blocks every other game? Is that why the NFL's leading rushers seem to end up on his team. This article is a crock. The difference between an average and a very good lineman is the difference in a game. It is what gives the QB that extra half or full second of protection to complete a pass - how do you measure that? It is the the block that allows a team to convert the 3rd and 4th and 1. It is the difference between a block that leads to a 4 yard run and one that leads to a 12 yard run.

    We all saw what difference an athletic offensive line makes in 2004.
     
  5. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    So who the hell is this Ross Tucker idiot? Did he win any rings? Just what the hell does he know? How to suck?
     
  6. GSourJr

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    When the Jets were making the playoffs in the early part of the decade, they had a very solid o-line.

    When those guys left for various reasons, the Jets line stunk.

    Meanwhile, the players that were deemed expendable for one reason or another, Randy Thomas, Jason Fabini, Kareem McKenzie, Kevin Mawae and Pete Kendall are all still starting for other teams. And with the exception of Mawae, have all been part of playoff teams, post-Jets.

    Really good offensive linemen like Faneca are worth their weight in gold. Hopefully, the Jets understand that now that they've paid a king's ransom for Faneca and Woody.
     
  7. Jets n Boys

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    2 plays a game by one player can make or break the game. If Faneca is able to help the Jets in just 2 games with those two extra plays, Its worth it. Bring 5 Faneca like players and you might add about 6-8 extra wins after a 4-12 season.

    Who is this *o** *ucker?
     
  8. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    Complete BS. The cap room is higher and the market is inflated, so the f*ck what? Let these guys get paid already. The position has been the McDonald's manager salary of the NFL for years. I say keep throwing money in the trenches.
     
  9. Bosko

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    I thought it was a very good column...

    And I agree with GSourJr on this point. And I try to make it whenever I visit here. To this, i will add, for anyone who cares to listen to me:

    Football teams win based on the strength of the OL and DL.

    The single worst move I have ever seen Jets management make was quibbling with Pete Kendall, who was hailed as a "steal" when they got him from the Arizone Cardinals, over a mere $1 million bonus. Think about this in the years to come as the Jets pay this guy Faneca all this money. Hopefully, he will be worth it, but for what they are spending it would have made a lot more sense to pay Kendall the (relative) pittance he was asking for. And that is a red flag for this whole team.

    And the money the Jets are paying Faneca (and especially all those other guys) is a red flag. This year's free agent crop was, according to all reports, a very weak one. So the Jets are overpaying for mediocre talent.

    What else is new?
     
  10. Jets n Boys

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    Faneca is Brady with Moss in the slot - All Pro who has a few rings
    Kendall is Kitna - Good enough to start, but maybe not a probowl material

    Thats the difference.
     
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    Yea, this article stinks of sour grapes. He was an average linemen trying to say that he wasn't much different than the elite ones. He kept saying stuff like "I was fairly solid", which to me was a plea for recognition. His assertion that guards don't make much of a difference in the running game is ridiculous. If that's the case, every team should run for 2000 yards and open up huge running holes. The other thing he said is that an average guard will give up 2-3 more bad plays a game JUST IN THE PASSING GAME than a great guard. That's HUGE. There are only about 10 offensive drives per game, with passing plays that take up a bulk of the 3rd downs. You're telling me that not making 2 or 3 third downs doesn't make a difference? That's 2 or 3 stalled drives, a difference between a TD and a FG, FG and no points, giving them the ball at the 20 vs. the 50, maybe 3~10 points a game. Perhaps one of the most ridiculous articles I've seen.
     
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    Those who can't.....write about those who can
     
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    We paid stupid money to Faneca because we had to. It's not that complicated.
     
  15. Mr. green T

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    The difference between Ross Tucker and Alan Faneca is that Faneca is playing in the NFL and Tucker is watching it.
     
  16. NDmick

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