McShay's reasoning in latest mock has me confused.

Not really, I think he just reasons that because Gholston's play was inconsistent, McFadden is the better prospect and should be taken ahead of him. Once McFadden is off the board, that then leaves Gholston as the best guy left when the Pats pick.

 

+1.............

 

Exactly ^^^^

 

yes, it's you. he clearly ends his evaluation of McFadden saying he can't see taking Gholston before McFadden, and since we pick before NE, McFadden is thus the pick between the two. not sure what is oddly worded about such a clear assertion.

as far as a perfect fit, he never says Gholston wouldn't be a perfect fit for the Jets but would be for NE, he is simply saying he would be for NE -- so it is an irrelevant factor whether he would fit the Jets. Should he name every team that the player would be a fit for when discussing why NE would draft him?. I don't think so.

sure, he asserts he disappears at times, but that doesn't mean he doesn't think he isn't going to be drafted. every player has criticism, that doesn't mean he doesn't fit in somewhere.

 

I was looking at the mocks before and a few errors were obvious. There is no way in the world that RB is a need for us. We have Thomas Jones and Leon Washington- Repeat- There is no way that RB is a need for us. Sure we could use a playmaking talent like McFadden, but to say RB is a need is completely inaccurate.

Also, a need position would also include safety. I dont see that position next to the heading. The reality is that these guys arent familiar enough with all 32 teams to be relied on too heavily.

Thats why I say draft McKelvin. He plays a need area and is the top rated cornerback in the draft. Considering New England is in desperate need of a Samuel replacement, seems like even more of a perfect fit. Oh yea, he could also return punts to complement our kickoff return tandem of Washington/Miller. Our defense and special teams would be elite and we would dominate the field position game.

 

also, he may see NE as a more solid, established team that could absorb the time needed for gholston to mature and make the transition from NCAA DE to NFL 3-4 OLB

mcfadden, on the other hand, is 'good to go' from day one, making him more appealing to a team that needs draft pics to step in and contribute asap (revis, harris, etc).

not to change the direction of this very nice thread, but look for NE to draft heavy on defense. i would not be surprised to see NE try move up to have a shot at long/gholston/mckelvin, etc. it's killing belicheck that he lost a first round pic. if not for spygate (thank you jets), Long could EASILY be playing for NE this season. think about it.

 

A few weeks back, before all of our FA signings I thought people were far too worried about who NE would take after us rather than who we should take that would best fill our needs, but I like your rational about taking a CB like McKelvin now. He helps us AND hurts them. I think WR IS our biggest need right now and unless we can somehow trade out of our pick and pick a WR a bit later. Again, a few weeks ago I wouldn't think about a CB at 6, but as we all know, our 'needs' have certainly changed. I'm really get onto the bandwagon with 2 elite CB's that are so young. Much like the fins had with Madison/Surtain. They had Brock Marion at S and I think Rhodes compares favorably to him.

 

I agree with you here. but since gholston has been getting alot of hype as of right now it looks like we might pick him up but i think he may be gone b4 that

 

Hmmm. Mike Vrabel isn't going back to ILB. He just had his best season as a pro rushing off the corner.

If the Patriots picked up Gholston, he'd play opposite Vrabel at Roosevelt Colvin's old position. Adalius Thomas and Tedy Bruschi would play inside. Junior Seau would either retire or be a back-up.

 

Only way we take a CB is if they are both gone.

 

I guess a guy who disappears is a natural fit for New England? Ala Moss? I don't know.

Thomas Jones is creeping up to that running back age.. 31 or so where the wheels just pop off. I'm in favor of either Gholston or Mcfadden, although I'm not too familiar of the game tape in which Gholston disappears.

 

The Jets face NE 2x a year. The only way to beat the Pats is to sack and or hit Brady till he stays down. Ask the Giants how they won a SB. In the NFL today you can't have enough pass rushers to pressure the QB. I would take Gholston in a minute over McFadden any day of the week and 2x on Sunday. I'm willing to wait till 09' to bring in offensive playmakers but I want to shore up my defense in this years draft.

 

McFadden is just too tempting. And NE is desperate for a young LB.

 

I think everytime McFadden open his mouth up and speaksis – he drops anuder spot.

In other words – there is a adverse relationship between his draft value and words (or noise) coming out of his mouth. If he keeps talking – we may be able to pick him up in the 2nd.

 

for those who think RB is too much of a luxury pick to jump on mcfadden i tend to disagree. reasoning being that jones will be gone within 2 or 3 yrs. however much is left on the contract.

if we landed mcfadden by the time jones leaves we have leon washington in his prime and mcfadden with 3 yrs under his belt

chatman is a non factor in the big picture.

 

I just think the mock draft creator is more or less saying that the Jets are prepared and equipped to take the Best Player Available with their #6 pick.