Reality check for those who do nt want to draft O-linemen.

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  1. Jtuds

    Jtuds Active Member

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    We have lost Mawae, Fabini, and Goodwin.
    Therefore, right now our starting O-linemen will be:

    LT: Adrian Jones
    LG: Steve Morley
    C: Pete Kendall
    RG: Brandon Moore
    RT: Scott Gragg

    You still wanna draft Leinart or Cutler and put them behind that hack-job O-line? The phrase "Football games are won and lost in the trenches" does not come from nowhere, therefore we need to focus on O-line early in the draft. It just so happens that a phenomenal tackle will be available to us with our first pick, and many of you would rather put a rookie QB behind what we've got instead of shoring up the entire line and building something for the future. Sure we could replace a couple guys with rookies, but in my opinion, we need to take the most talented rookies available, and that would mean taking at least one lineman in the first round.
     
  2. Anarcho Fukayama

    Anarcho Fukayama New Member

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    Gragg is retired, isn't he? He's coaching now or some such thing. Cavka is the RT by default.
     
  3. LV Coach

    LV Coach Well-Known Member

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    Hi Jtuds;

    Yep, you got D'Brick right for the 1st pick.

    And A....F....is right about Gragg, cut.
     
  4. ScotsJet

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    I'd imagine you're more likely to see Kendall LG and Katnik than Morley and Kendall as you site them.

    But still I don't want Ferguson. I don't think he is a big enough upgrade over Jones to justify passing on the other major talents that will be available at #4.
     
  5. 28rogerblaze51

    28rogerblaze51 New Member

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    We should draft mangold and either sign hopkins and draft a tackle next year, or draft a tackle who is ready to start, there are a couple out there.

    We need starters at center and tackle.
     
  6. vegaskarl

    vegaskarl Well-Known Member

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    D'Brick will be the first choice unless the Jets get a great offer to move down. IMHO, he is the safest choice. The QB's could all be great or all busts and the Jets will go with the safe choice at a needed area.

    Kendall is going back to guard. The Jets seem to be high on that kid they picked up form SF practice squad.
     
  7. lebojets

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    I believe you can add Gragg to the lost list because i think he called it quits.
     
  8. Wah

    Wah Well-Known Member

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    The draft alone isn't going to fix this... we need quality FAs as well as 1st day draft picks.
     
  9. 4jetfans

    4jetfans Well-Known Member

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    I have to admit I have been caught up in the hype of Super Mario and A.J Hawk just to mention a few. But once my head clears out and I realize we need to build our O-Line I'm sure we will take D-Brick and add more linemen further down in the draft as well. This seems to be the time for our JETS to really truely start over and build something that in a few years can finally get us to the promise land.
     
  10. Angry Teste

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    It's about time someone realized we have no line. Even with the retirement/departure of those players-they were like turnstiles last year. We are 3 years away from doing anything because our line is so depleted of talent.

    Very nice post!
     
  11. thejetsaddict

    thejetsaddict New Member

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    You know we dont have just one draft pick right? I think we may be able to pick up some good talent for the Oline later in the draft.
     
  12. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    That's no reason to pass up a potential star at an impact position. Unless you think the Jets are going to be finishing near the bottom of the league for several years to come I don't think you can take a relatively questionable OL talent with the #4 pick.
     
  13. notajduhe

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    Enough of these poorly thought out posts ! If the JETS draft a QB, he will not start one game this season, he will ride the pine, like most high draft pick QB's. So if your only fear is our O-Line, you have 6 rounds of this years draft, this year's free agency, next years draft, and next year's free agency to solve that problem. Given that we will likely stink up the building this year with Penny and Ramsey at the helm we will have high picks again next year. On top of all this, we have a ton of cap space to spend to fix the o-line over then next 1.5 years.
     
  14. DonnieBaseball23

    DonnieBaseball23 Active Member

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    The thing is, there is a good chance New ORleans will be taking D-Brick with the #2, now that they signed Brees. That is, if they don't trade the pick away...
     
  15. parafly

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    Great post!

    The OL is by far our most desperate need. People seem to forget last season very quickly, and fail to realize we have pretty much ZERO depth on the OL. What if one or two or three of our starters go down next season? At this point we have absolutely no one to replace them with...
     
  16. DevTeam

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    We have a bunch of OL in nfl europe right now, that's a good sign right *Sarcasm*?
     
  17. vilmatic

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    Yup, gotta draft OL. As I stated in another thread, #29 is earmarked for Mangold, so now we've got a center, a tackle and one and a half guards. I feel like Andrew Whitworth in the third is a nice fit for a Mangini player: tough, team-oriented, durable, football means a lot to him. And he's a brute RT. But hey, get those two picks done and our line is set for awhile. (at least until next year when we have to replace Kendall)
     
  18. Coach K

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    my sentiments exactly

    theres enough OL to p ickup solid players in the 2nd or maybe even 3rd

    and the dropoff between them and Ferguson wont be bad considering at 4 we can get a player who will change the team instantly
     
  19. kbgreen

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    OL takes time to gel. You can useally get away with plugging one or two holes in FA if your nucleus is intact but the Jets need almost a complete overhall. That is going to take time so drafting a top teir OL is a very good Idea. Dbrick could be the cornerstone in that process.

    The only players I would consider no brainers over dbrick are bush and Leinhart. I also like Mario or Hawk but I think they are not no brainers over dbrick because this team has alot pieces to fill and one potential difference maker will not be enough while a strong OL will last for years.
     
  20. dabrowsk1

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    The most important thing for either line, D or O, is chemistry. The best O-Lines in the league anticipate each other. It takes time for an O-line to gel, at least a year. That means if we draft your QB this year and he rides the pine, when he is ready to come in the O-line will not have that chemistry and he will be running for his life (see Houston). It is better to focus on the O-line this year, get it mostly set, and give them a year to get to know each other and develop that chemistry. Then when it comes time to plug in the QB, it will be behind a stable line.

    Bradway used the later rounds to address the during his tenure, how did that work out? There is a reason Belicheck and Parcells take lineman on the first day of the draft.

    Whether or not Brick is a franchise LT is open for debate. Some see him as average, others in the level of Pace or Ogden. Personally I think he will be elite, and I want an elite LT protecting the QB. But I am not a GM. I can be wrong, just as people can be wrong that he won't be anything special, only time will tell. But the fact remains that the O-line is the biggest need on this team. And not just starters, the depth is horrid. There is no better place to start building a line than LT. Jones can be a stop gap solution at RT, or help with our depth issues since he can play either T positions.

    The lines are the biggest issue on this team. If the FO can get those issues settled, for the most part, this year then we can build around them. That is my philosophy anyway.
     
    #20 dabrowsk1, Mar 29, 2006
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