I don?t think we draft Gholston with those big Contracts for BT and Pace. Now who do we target? Long will be gone. DMC seems obvious but if he?s also gone? CB? WR? S? I?m not sold on any at 6. Or are we really going for Ryan?
It doesn't completely eliminate us from Gholston but I think it may mean that we trade down and build depth
I do hope we trade down for depth/needs purposes. Even though draft chart has us losing value if Dallas did want to trade their two first rounders for the number 6, I wouldnt mind doing it at all. We could fill WR spot up, and get another pass rusher, CB, S, OL. Anything is possible if we get those two picks.
i wouldnt rule out gholston...if he is the best available then he is the guy i'm interested to see how the FO views DT Ellis and if they think he can fit in the 3-4 as a DE if they think this guy can be a force at DE...and give them the flexibility to play a few downs at DT or NT he could be the pick i dont think there is any chance we trade up though...we take what falls or move down with the amount of picks and talent we are adding the front office will likely be open to taking a team's 1st next year with their 1st this year as the package to move down
If Gholston's there, I still take him. Having 3 starting caliber OLB's adds depth and versatility to the defense, and doesn't force him to step in and be a force from day 1. If McFadden's there, gauge trade offers and if nothing's appealing, take him. This line should be able to make big enough holes so that his lower body will go untouched. However, if we could trade down and get some combination of the below with the 2 or 3 picks (depends on whether it's the 'boys or not) we'll not have in the mid-late first to the early 2nd: In no particular order, with some example players: -WR (Limas Sweed, James Hardy, Malcom Kelly, Early Doucet, Devin Thomas) -OLB depth (Phillip Merling, Quentin Groves, Cliff Avril) -DE depth (Kentwan Balmer, Calais Campbell, Pat Sims, Dre Moore) -OL depth (Gosder Cherilus, Carl Nicks for RT; Branden Albert for G) If I'm the FO, I think I go Hardy, Cherilus, Moore or Merling/Groves, Cherilus, Doucet depending on who's there.
I have a feeling their gonna go big on offensive skill position players. I could see them going 1. McFadden 2. Hardy/Doucet/Thomas and then with the rest of the picks take some DB and OLB projects.
Philip Merling isn't a 3-4 OLB. If Gholston is there, we could take him...but with his domination at the combine, someone might want to trade up for him, just like teams might do for McFadden. I can't see us drafting any offensive linemen in the first round or in the top of the 2nd. Carl Nicks will probably be the guy because of his relationship with Bill Callahan. We need a tall wideout like Sweed, Hardy, or Kelly. I would love to see any of them in a Jets' uni.
You don't think Merling's a 3-4 OLB? At 6-4 276, he seems like the right size. I will say I'd rather Groves, however, as I think a speed rusher would complement Thomas and Pace well. Agreed with Gholston though, I see him going as high as 2, thus why it's far from a given that he's there for us. I'll agree with Nicks, and I think that's the most likely scenario. On further thought, I think I may like Nicks more now with Woody in the fold, as he'll have a few years to work on his technique with Callahan before having to step in. I've also been saying all along that a tall WR would greatly complement Coles and Cotch. Agreed 100% with that. Thomas and Doucet are not as tall at 6-1 and 6-0, but Thomas has gamebreaking potential and Doucet is a Coles clone. If the Coles situation goes sour, Doucet might be a good pick because he could step in on day 1 and make an impact. Regardless, Sweed followed by Hardy and Kelly are my current preference.
Merling is strictly a 4-3 end. He isn't fast enough to play OLB in the 3-4. I can see our FO making A LOT of deals in the upcoming draft. I just hope Mangini and Tannenbaum finish this off-season the same way they started it: Strong.
i would take McFadden if it between the two. Hopefully the pace signing will give us a pass rush and McFadden could be an absolute beast behind this revamped o-line. It all depends on how much faith the FO has in Pace, which is apparently a lot considering the money they shelled for him. But getting gholston would still be great considering we would have sick depth and will always have a good pass rusher fresh.
I would still take Gholston. It would give us a ton of flexibility. Just look at how the Giants pash rush worked last year. We could rush Thomas, Pace, Gholston, and Ellis on 3rd situations throwing in Harris and Rhodes to change things up.
In my opinion the Jets want McFadden. They would use him in many ways too: -They could have TJ in the backfield and split McFadden out as a WR. -They could put both in the backfield at the same time. The great thing about picking McFadden is, he wouldn't have to shoulder the entire load from day one. He could come in and learn behind TJ and perhaps learn how to become a better person off the field. Gholston would be great too, but McFadden looks like the target.
I agree. Adding McFadden to the offense gives them a dimension that very few teams other have. We all know Schotty can be a very creative when it comes to be creating different formations and packages. Imagine a full-house formation of McFadden-Jones-Washington in the backfield with Coles and Cotchery split wide? That could be deadly.
