its obvious that our management believes we are close, or time is running out for our coaching staff. they gave up alot of cash for two linemen that are not spring chickens. i guess the idea of drafting and rebuilding the "right" way went down the tubes? i like faneca, but damn why so much? who is gonna be our number two corner? i hope our management is not banking on miller. now our glaring need seems to be at wideout, right tackle and the positions to rush the passer. maybe our spending spree isnt over, and we can get more before the draft. to me this preseason looks alot like parcells in 97. is cap hell looming, but with less results? the pressure is on now, as long as this spending trend continues.
Well I believe they feel Faneca can play at a high level for atleast 3 maybe 4 years. Jenkins is still relatively young and will be here for a few years as well. I know what your saying but I don't think were done.
It's so funny that Jet fans are so surprised by the recent spending, something we've all been asking for for years, that they don't know how to react. Relax! We made one trade and signed one pricey free agent...multiple teams do it every year, it just happened to be the Jets this year. Tannenbaum's a cap genius, he knows what he's doing. I agree we have other needs, but it's only two days into the offseason.
rebuilding through he draft -- the jets have been trying that for 30 years and guess what....we suck at it. By the time our draft picks are decent players we don;t resign them. We get 2 players that fill our two biggest glaring needs...and with pro-bowl caliber players. Our running game and pass protection should improve, which will keep the O on the field longer giving the defense more rest between series, and help our QB stay healthy, work the play action, and become more effective. On D a monster in he middle should help the guys on the ends and free up our LB to make plays. Should help put more pressure on opposing QBs which will make the job of our secondary easier. Poteat proved he can play opposite DR so we can draft and another CB to add depth at that position.
what exactly do you want them to do?Make Faneca an offer he can refuse? Tell me if you were Jets Management, what will you do?Keep the DROB Vilma experiment going even though it has not worked? Or will you get the Jenkins who has the size to play NT. I definately do not have any problems with the amounts of money spent(Its not my money) or the players we spent it on.I think we have addressed the two most important positions.Yes RT is a need, hence the visits by Damien Woody and Shane Olivea.I am sure we can finda CB in the draft if not, Lito Sheppard and Randall Gay are still out there.I think we went after the most important positions first.The rest will follow.
You can only claim to be rebuilding for so long. Mangini is entering his 3rd season now. At that point, you expect to be at least a playoff contender. They can't patch every single need that the team has in one offseason and they know that. They've started free agency off with a bang by signing players in the biggest areas of need on the very first day. There's plenty of time to make more moves between now and the draft, where we'll likely pick up another player or 2 that will be major contributors. The short answer to you question is simple: Management is trying to build a contender.
Oh no. We aren't done yet. We need Deangelo Hall right now! Then Calvin Pace and Damien Woody and I think Brandon Moore will fit in just fine with the line. D'Brickashaw needs a little help though. He's not as good as we expected. You all know it. A pretty good defensive end on the right side? That's when the draft comes in handy. I'd like to see Keenan McCardell on the Jets.
I like the way the jets have drafted so far during the Mangini era, and I think they got the FA/trade targets right this year. They made the mistake of getting marginal players in hopes that they could be more than they were the last couple of seasons. Faneca was a great signing, and Jenkins is the big body we needed on the DL. Its optimism time
It seems pretty clear to me that the team is a lot better than they were two days ago, at the cost of nothing but money. If two of the past three Super Bowls taught anything at all, it is that a team no longer has to have a great regular season to win it all - even if you never have a home playoff game, you can win. (I admit that up until a couple of years ago I did not believe this, but you can't argue with the recent evidence.) I absolutely think that the Jets are trying to build a team that can win in the next couple of years, and I think it's a fine idea. Another point to consider is that it's a lot tougher to be in "cap hell" than it was 10 years ago, since the cap is so much higher.
Take a look at the Jets 08 schedule- 10 or 11 wins is extremely within their reach if they take care of their remaining need areas this offseason
I love it... when they don't make a big FA splash everyone bitches that they are cheap. Now they go and shovel some money onto the fire and someone has to question why are mortgaging the farm and the bathroom sink. :lol: Clearly there is no pleasing everyone. Just because you make a couple of big FA signings doesn't have to mean you are close to anything and it certainly doesn't mean they are giving up on the draft. Perhaps they looked at these positions as better to upgrade in FA then who was in the draft based on where they are drafting. It will be interesting to see how they spend the picks now.
faneca is a player that will instantly better our o-line, but is not a long term answer for the future. faneca is roughly a kendall situation, only elevated in the talent department. go to the steelers chat sites, they are not crushed that he has moved on, although they might change their tunes next season, just like we suffered this season after kendalls departure. jenkins may not pan out. he does have the size, but has been injured in the past and played in a 4-3, which translates into a gamble for the next year or so. i am not complaining that our office finally spent some money, hell i'm over-joyed. but it does strike me that our management cannot make up their minds by what they have done the past two off-seasons, including the draft. i hope it all works out and we finally win a superbowl. i have only waited and watched for the past 30 seasons.
What do you consider the future? I consider it this season coming up. The season coming up is the season we want to win the Super Bowl, right? Right! So, Faneca was a good move for the future as far as increasing the Jets chances to win a Super Bowl. Why worry about 3-4 years from now. You might be dead man. :drunk:
look man, they had to work hard to get the cap straightened out. if the accountant says we can afford the players, we can afford them. isnt the cap going up again next year and chad's contract coming off?
so very true, i may be dead. but i do not believe woody will buy a superbowl, do you? i am just saying that our current regime believes it can build a contender for many years, and this big spending approach doesnt fit their initial plan for the team, i.e. build through the draft...develope players..etc.etc..... i really dont give a damn how the jets win a superbowl, as long as they win one before i become a dead man.
Thats right, genious. And he gave Kendall 20 Mil, in 2004. 2004,5,6 he played at a high level before whining.And one year he played center. He played pretty well this year. Thats four years.....Remind me again of the legnth of Faneca's contract? DBust,and Mangold, and the OL they draft this year will be what? 3 years, and one year into the league. Couple that with Moore, who they like, and Bender the project and what does that mean? A solid oline for the next 5 years. And the first one that as to be replaced?????? Faneca. And you've got four years to look. Try to think it through beyond the first nitpick. Of course this assumes that they draft to replace Clement....even if they dont, whoever they bring in (Clement has played 10 years+) will give you at least three years before AGE forces a replacement.
Ha if there were no salary cap the Jets would have every damn good player right now. New York has the most money, and therefore would have the best teams! Am I right or what?
We are building through the draft, and we're supplementing those players with quality free agents. Revis, Harris, Brick, Mangold, Washington, Cotchery, Rhodes, etc. These guys, the best players on our team, are all draft picks. I don't care which regime they came from, they were all picked by our franchise and we're spending money right now to help them out. The bottom line is they're trying to bring in the best people they can to win now. I'm willing to give them another season to see if they can do just that.
Unfortunately there's a man sitting in Texas laughing at that statement right now. So no, you're not right on this one :wink:
