While the teams picking 1 through 5 may change through trades, the players that will be picked are becoming more clear as the combine closes. Given the stupid, meaningless "victory" over the Chiefs, the Jets are sitting at pick six. Regardless of order of where they're picked, let's say the following five players are gone by the time the Jets are on the clock: Chris Long Jake Long Vernon Gholston Darren McFadden Matt Ryan Now, knowing that both Defensive Tackles Dorsey and Ellis are widely reported to not fit in the 3-4 scheme (side frustration: do any tackles fit the 3-4 scheme?), who the hell do we pick if the above increasingly likely scenario occurs? I say we trade down at this point, if there are any takers that is. THIS SUCKS!
That?s tough depends on what Tanny and Mangini think is the BPA among RB, WR, DE/OLB, DE/DT, CB, S I might go with Stewart.
well if that happens, hopefully we get a NT via FA, and have the ability to trade down to nab a top flight WR or Philips
One of 3 roads 1. Sedrick Ellis- Hope Mayock is right and he has the makings of a 3-4 NT w/ added weight and experience 2. Trade down- Stockpile picks and move to an area w/ more value/need 3. Rashard Mendenhall- There have been whispers that we are looking for an RB who can get the ball in the end zone more effectively than T Jones. mendenhall is flying up the draft boards.
Yea I was thinking Mendehall. If he's flying up the boards, that might help us in two ways: we could pick him at six or, others will covet him and be willing to trade up with us to get him with our pick...
I love #2, and Im ok with #3....I will kill someone if we Draft Ellis...this isnt time to play Russian Roulette with our NT. We need to sign someone, in addition to drafting someone for the future....
If it is a nightmare scenario for us, what makes anyone think anyone would be knocking our socks off trying to get into that spot. Sometimes I really dont think anyone realizes that you need to have a team willing to trade up in order to trade down.. If this situation did happen than you go with Ellis if you think he could be a dominant NT or you take Mendenhall..
This is a good point, it takes two to tango. Assuming we don't get Samuels in free agency, would picking the best corner in the draft make sense here?
A couple of other players that might fit are 1) Kenny Phillips - pairing him with Rhodes, Revis, and possibly Samuel would give us one hell of a defensive backfield 2) Derrick Harvey - Is known for his pass rushing abilties, weighed in at 291 and ran a 4.7 40.
Would Ryan Clady be worth a top pick at RT? 6'-6" 317 lbs. Thats a lot of beef. He seems closely talented to Jake Long.
Trade down or take one of the 4-3 DT's. The Jets have got to get better on the defensive front or Mangini's 3-4 is toast anyway as he gets shown the door. If the Jets still have D-Rob at draft time they take one of the DT's and plan to play a lot of 4-3 fronts in 2008. Even if they don't have D-Rob they do this and plan to play whoever they take plus Sione Pouha at 4-3 NT. The worst scenario is to take a fast rising tailback to play behind that horrid line next season. The Jets want somebody who is better at getting into the end zone than Thomas Jones? The same Thomas Jones who had 22 TD's playing for Chicago from 2004-2006? ROFLMAO. Get some offensive linemen, then get a tailback.
The more research I do on Ellis - the more comfortable I am with the pick. The comparisons to Drob are unwarranted in the respect that no one claimed he could play NT coming out of college. Every bit of analysis I see on the net claims that Ellis would do great as NT. The fact that he can also play the 3 technique just makes him the versatile kind of player I want on my defense. If our FO sees the same thing that these scouts do and the scenario plays out like you set-up, it is an absolute no brainer to take him. An impact NT (unlike a rush OLB/OL) will not be available in the later rounds/FA.
we have recently heard reports Merling has intrigued Mangini. Also we could take the top corner, or we could take the top WR. after his workouts, Sweed is moving up the boards. granted it would be worse than the Phins taking Ted Gin jr. last year in terms of value, but I am sure he would at least be worth it over the long run. also Clady is an option, and also there is the option of Mendenhall. I would prefer not to take a RB at all in this draft, but clearly stuck with the choices at #6 who knows who our FO would have as the BPA in this situation.
Dude comon we grab Dorsey or Ellis Both are ELITE talents. and Dorsey could play 3-4 end and Ellis could play 3-4 end or nt (which ever one hes better at). With Ellis and Matt Ryan rising, there really arent any "NIGHTMARE" scenarios.
I like this too Kurt. I liked what I saw out of Mendenhall, but I would have a hard time swallowing it at #6. If we traded down a few spots and then ended up with Mend. I'd like it better. Maybe someone would be gungho about trading up for Ellis at that point.
This is terrible!!! There's only five players in this year's draft?! I had no idea! Did somebody send out a memo or something?
From what little draft talk I have heard so far, I think this may be harder than you may think. There has to be someone there that another team would want bad, and the sports shows are saying that that guy, the sort that a team would trade up to get, just isn't there after 5. Of course, there's always the chance that Miami will blow their pick, and leave one of these guys on the board to draft a punter or something.
