So who would you have hired after the 2005 season? What coach would you have brought in that would have led the Jets to the promised land? It's easy to sit here now and say you wouldn't hire Mangini, but it's a lot harder to say who your guy would have been, even with 20-20 hindsight. Go for it.
hmmmm, not sure. exactly who were those available? i'll bet you there had to be someone with more experience. if mangini didnt have his so called new england pedigree, would you still wake up with him in the morning? as much as i hate to say it, "if i was woody" and i was serious about the team, wouldnt i try to lure some coach currently under contract from some other team? nah...i'd probably just wish i was new england and buy the knock off at the gillette stadium gift store! there, i went for it!!!! hindsight or no hindsight i wouldnt have given him a second glance! question is who would you rather have? a few more years of mangini?
With the patience you show, you would have been calling for his head in the 1999 season. The grass is always greener in someone else's yard....let's stick with what we've not and see where it goes.
If we had the history behind this board intact it would be funny to see exactly what people used to think of Cowher before his SB win. I am sure plenty of folks trash talked him along the way.
If I was Woody then when the West Side Stadium deal fell apart I'd have done the next best thing, took Queens up on their offer for a Brand new Jets only stadium next to the Mets new park. But no, the team is STILL in another state and it STILL shares with the friggin Giants. Total BS, this still makes me irrate.
If I was Woody at that point I'd have put the rest of the money up myself and built the WSS anyway. Then I'd own the latest, greatest sports venue in the country, have the Super Bowl and the Final Four coming to my place, on top of a brand new home for my team in Manhattan. He would have gotten the investment back over time and he certainly had the money to put up.
Why should Johnson have spent over $1 billion to build a stadium in Queens? Last time I checked, Queens was part of NYC and a new stadium would have needed the approval of the same politicians that had just flipped him the bird. Plus there was opposition building against a Jet stadium in Queens. The local business people who would have been displaced were rising up and their was a group forming that was opposed to the loss of Flushing Meadow Park. A stadium in Queens was no slam dunk. It made perfect sense for Johnson to join in with the Giants and build a stadiuim for half the price. Does it really matter if they share the place? I don't hear Knick fans bemoaning having to share the Garden with the Rangers. What difference does it really make? It's not like the two teams are on the field at the same time. As for this playing in another state thing - it just makes no sense. Who cares what state they play in as long as they are in the NYC metro area. If that is your standard - root for the Bills. Let's face it - NJ, LI, Westchester and Connecticut are all NYC suburbs. That's why they call it the "tri-state area."
The fight to build in Queens was no were near has hard as the fight to build in Manhatten, #1 reason being you already have the Mets and the U.S Open Tennis Stadiums there, these torch carring mobs would not have a a leg to stand on in preventing the Jets from building, and unlike Manhatten, Queens wanted the Jets there, the Jets are from Queens, the Jets, not the Titians who played at the polo grounds, it made prfect sense to play there again. I hate being called the New Jersey Jets by other fans, and football stadiums are totally different then basketball & hockey arenas, just knowing the green in the stadium has Giants blue under it ticks me off, now the new place hopefully won't be that way like Giants Stadium is. I'll love the Jets no matter what, but this is the only team to NEVER have it's own stadium and that's still going to be the case for the next 20 years atleast.
Explain to me how the talent has gotten anything but better since last season? Revis, Harris, Jones, K. Coleman...all upgrades. Where did we get weaker besides Guard? Who has had better experience than Mangini? He has been under Parcells and Belicheck. What is better? So far Mangini has had an overachieving and an underachieving season. Let see what happens next year before we get rash.
Places we are weaker since last season: LG, RT (Clement has been a disaster area), LT (D'Brick has stepped back some), SE (Coles has been hurt and is starting to show some age, none of the young guys or other vets on the team stepped up to cover), QB (obvious decline for Chad and Clemens has not stepped up yet), RDE (people have run all over Coleman this season, take a look at Footballoutsiders.com's numbers on rushes left, center and right to find out where the Jets have declined most often this season: runs at RDE), ROLB (Hobson is to blame for the bad numbers on runs to that side also), LOLB (Thomas has been mediocre at best over there, not even playing as well as Hobson did last season), SS (whoever has been opposite Rhodes has been a hole), RCB (the Dyson/Barrett/Coleman rotation hasn't even been as good as the Barrett/Coleman/Miller rotation of last season, which is why the Jet's pass D is worse this year than last.) There are talent deficits all over the field for the Jets right now. That's why they are 3-12.
I really think that are so many on this board that have little or no FB smarts that they cannot grasp all this team needs to even be competive again
