3-4 versus the 4-3

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  1. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    with this being a topic of debate frquently on here, because of our personel, i say why dont we hire a ryan, and play the 4-6. if you look at it long enough we have more of the personel to run it than we do either the 3-4 or the 4-3. lets debate.......keep in mind i'm not saying the 85 bears version ( that was more of all the stars aligning perfectly) which may never happen again.
     
  2. GreenHornet

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    We couldn't play the 11-0 right now.
     
  3. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    With the way our D has been playing I don't think it is a good idea to play with only 10 players on D...
     
  4. MyFavoriteMartin5

    MyFavoriteMartin5 New Member

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    The 46 is an interesting idea, however I don't think its going to happen. Mangini seems like he is really intent on making the 3-4 work
     
  5. Richiebsweet

    Richiebsweet Active Member

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    And while Mangini is intent on making the 3-4 work with no proper personnel, the JETS will be losing.
     
  6. hazmat

    hazmat New Member

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    It's not like if we were playing the 4-3 it would be any better.
     
  7. Bigoljetairliner28

    Bigoljetairliner28 New Member

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    forgive this naive question, please, but can i get a quick tutorial on the philosophy of the 46? We're talking two Tackles and two Ends... and 6 linebackers in space somehow? And I feel really stupid asking this, but is the last position one roving safety?
    I know terrible question...
     
  8. Bigoljetairliner28

    Bigoljetairliner28 New Member

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    OK, never mind...

    The 46 philosophy is designed around a simple concept: Pressure wins games. A pressure defense increases the anxiety level of the quarterback, offensive players, and their coaches. Your opponents will spent sleepless nights second-guessing them-selves. This is soon followed by Confusion and fear, which compels our adversary to play something other than his regular offense, giving us the advantage.


    The key to the success of this defense is the nose guard. The alignment is as follows, the nose guard is head up on the center, there are two B-gap rushers, and two inside linebackers. Most pass protection rules have backs on linebackers so, when the guards blocked the B-gap rushers, the center was alone “on an Island and the nose guard could rush to either side.


    The 3-3-5 defense is similar to the 46. The 3-3-5 defense is also a high pressure aggressive defense. It uses many fronts to confuse the offensive blocking assignments. The basic formation has its two ends lining-up a shade outside the offensive tackles.

    The nose guard lines-up head-up on the center. He is sometimes asked to control both A-gaps. Most of the time he is asked to slant into one A-gap while the linebacker, behind, slants into the other A-gap.

    The 3-3-5 defense limits the number of receivers an offense can put into a pass pattern and safely protect its quarterback. This is done by faking a total blitz on almost every play. This tactic, forces the offense to keep the tight end and the running backs in to block.

    When the defense reads run, they come with the total blitz to stop the run. When the defense reads pass, they rush anywhere from 3 to 5 men. However, the offense never knows which 3 to 5 men are coming because the defense also drops linemen into coverage. This scheme keeps the offense speculating, who will be rushing the passer and who will not?
     
  9. Bigoljetairliner28

    Bigoljetairliner28 New Member

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    The key to the success of this defense is the nose guard.



    I'm not sure we're any better suited for this...
     
  10. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    To run that you need cornerbacks who can really cover wide receivers.
    The key to the 46 defense is time. The defense wants to rush the QB and ruin his chance to throw a good pass.

    The 46 alignment is a 4-4-3.

    The 46 defense got its name from Bears free safety Doug Plank. He wore #46. Plank moved up to play middle linebacker in the original 46, which had a 5-1-5 alignment.

    The 46 in a nutshell-
    Three defensive linemen across from the center and guards. (These were the best pass rushers.)
    The weakside end lined up outside the offensive tackle.
    The strongside linebacker lined up across from the tight end.
    The weakside linebacker moved to the strongside in a blitzing lane outside the tight end.
    The two inside linebackers were off the line and opposite the offensive tackles.
    There's the eight-man front.
    Five to eight players would blitz.
     

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