I'm giving him F, and I think I'm being very, VERY generous. ----------------------- It was a well-known fact that Jets have a gaping hole at both sides of the line. So... what does he do during the off season? 1. He drafts some reach from division II school to call him a guard. 2. He brings in a load of has-beens, washed-ups to the training camp - and he has absolutely NOTHING to show up for it. 3. Did he address the problem properly during either the draft OR free agency? NO. With that in mind, look at the performance of the entire team. Can the D-line generate push (on run down) or pass rush? NO Where is the hole TJ was supposed to run through, making the opposing D respect the run game? Nowhere. That alone merits F, since you can't win a football game when you are constantly losing the battle at the LoS. Yeah, claim what you will, about the D making stops when it needs. Praise the OL for giving decent pass protection and whatnot. The fact of the matter is that, This D will eventually make some stops (law of averages), and usually that will come after giving up more than a mile on the opposing offense. Basically, the Jets are in for a losing battle every week. And remember, the Bills offense that torched Jets defense time and again wasn't even on par with the elite of the league. What happens when the "elite" teams play against the Jets defense? That's right. 38 point humiliation. Ok - maybe he thinks he has enough resources on his roster - if that is the case (or if he DOES have a competent players on the roster that can get the job done) then it's more of his fault that this team is actually failing to achieve, since whatever he is doing is not working on games. Maybe his idea is wrong. Maybe his coaching staff isn't qualified. Quite possibly, his players plain suck. Either way, the blame falls squarely on him - because he didn't address the lack of the talent when he had a chance, and he didn't properly educate the players he had on the roster either. I tend to agree now with other people on this board now; if he's going to go on with 3-4, then he should go with 3-4. If he wants his 4-3 personnel on the roster, then he should go 4-3. Just he shouldn't pull half-ass bullshit. I don't even want to talk about the offense or the offensive game planning - it hurts to watch them.
Here's the problem with half the posts in this thread. How do you assign player acquisition blame to a head coach without assigning some or most of it to the GM? Who in here has any bleeding idea how much Mangini's player choices depend on scouting from Terry Bradway, AKA Mr. Longshot, AKA Mr. Desperate Trade-up? Because I think we can pretty much discern that Tannenbaum knows f***-all about football talent, he's an accountant. So we still have Terry Bradway up there making talent evals and we're in pretty much the same boat as we've been in since 2001. I do think Mangini takes the blame for a lot of that portion of the argument, but Bradway is a plague.
i give mangini a D! he's a defensive coach that has a defense playing horrible. as far as front office, i think he has a lot of input as to what player's get drafted and free agent pickups. after all, we brought him in to run things the patriot way and he's the one that knows the most, how it is done.. so i think he has far more input than some may want to believe. mangini's schemes have been figured out by the rest of the league now and he's not surprising anyone any longer. he actually was only a defensive co. for one year, so maybe he's not the genious many made him out to be..
I gave him an "F" too. There is absolutely no improvement on this team in any facet of the game and in many cases we have gone backwards. I'm not just basing it on wins and losses but on the overall look of the team.
Emotionless, unprepared, un-passionate players acting out a completely un-imaginative game plan which gives them little chance of doing anything other than covering a points spread. They look like characters – not football players. CS has to answer for that at some point.
That much is true - but Badway doesn't gameplan week in and week out. He doesn't coach up the talent on the roster. Those blame should fall squarely on Mangini. *But then, fire that loser already. He's a plague.*
I kind of expected to see what we are seeing this year. The real test for Mangini is how he and the team deal with adversity. This team is loaded with JAGS and journeyman players and coaches. I like his demeanor and the way he prepares, whether he can evaluate talent and adjust and deal with a though stretch or two will determine if he is a keeper. For now I'm pretty satisfied with what he brings to the table.
