Foley didn't beat Oakland. I think it was better than a 6 but either way we can agree it was better than average. I understand you like Clemens, I do as well, and he showe us omething in the 4th but he's still not a lock to be a good QB. I hope he is, I am very encouraged by the way he bounced back after 3 awful qtrs but it remains to be seen if he's closer to the guy we saw in the 4th or the guy we saw the 1st 3 qtrs. Clemens didn't getanything going until we were down 20-3 so wasn't it a similar performance? hat Pitt game was also the game the injuris began topile up as we ost lageman for te year.
The Jets were down 24 to 0 against the Pats at home last year and came back for a respectable loss. Didn't Vinny beat the fins after getting blown out for awhile? 20 to 3 isn't insurmountable it just means guys have to step up and make plays. Look at Cleveland last year, Chad sucked all game and made 1 throw that would have tied the game. If we pull it out Chad is a hero since the ref screwed us and it was Chad it's not his fault for stinking all game and we blame the loss on the ref just like we blame the Pitt loss on Brien and the Baltimore loss on Clemens being stupid in the first 3 quarters.
No truer words have ever been spoken, the Jets plight can be summed up in two words: poor drafting. Even now it has not stopped D-Wayne and D-Suckashaw, two high ass picks that are below average at best.
Blair Thomas, Kyle Brady, Dorian Boose? I just don't view this as a team that has any real chance of winning a title and isn't that what this is about? No one "builds" a team through the draft any more. However certain key pieces are acquired through the draft such as QB, RB, WR that can break games or D men that control the game, are gotten that way. The Jets have no game breakers. None on either side of the ball as far as I am concerned. We were a better team years ago when we had O'Brien leading Al Toon and McNeil on one side of the ball and Gasteneau and company on the other.
Those were good years to be Jets fans. They has an incredible team but due to typical Jets luck no Super Bowl. It's a long time ago but weren't we one game away from a SB when someone was called for a late hit on Bernie Kosar? :sad: The Parcell years were good ones too, but the thing is a few have come close but no one can seal the deal. Vinny and the gang ready to make that SB run then he tears his achilles game freakin 1, Parcells leaves... vicious cycle this franchise has, a few ups and and a lot of downs.
Well me too. The team then, had more weapons on both sides of the ball and we still couldn't get to the promised land. We had a D that teams did fear. We had an all-star RB and two receivers that could create seperation from the D-backs. What chance does this team have? We have none of that. O'Donnel was a gun slinger. CP cannot throw down field more than once or twice a game. The only similarities between NO and CP are they both have big feet they can't run with and both hold on to the ball way too long.
I remember very clearly that during the Detroit debacle in 97 (the LJ option pass game), O'Donnell came off the field and said something to Parcells and the Tuna replied "FU". It was very easy to read his lips. TBTF
O'Donnel was gutless all year and you could tell Parcells was completely feed up with him. Against Detriot O'Donnel was playing very well and Parcells almost out of spite and hate self destructed our chance to win that game.
It is similar except for the fact Clemens did it against a superb defense and Nagle did it against a suspect defense. Also, Clemens threw for a decent chunk of his yardage while down 20-13 with the game on the line. Truthfully, Nagle in Week 1 1992 was not a true EGP because the game was close in the second half.
IRRC, Nagle's first game was against the Falcons, and they ran a very simple defensive scheme - maybe mostly man. Once Nagle began to face more complicated defenses is when he began to suck. That's what I remember hearing anyway about why the Browning Rifle never lived up to the hype. That whole year, come to think of it, was horrible, culminating with Dennis Byrd getting injured. The best part of the year was that game after the Byrd game when we beat the Bills in Buffalo after a Brian Washington interception. TBTF
Where do you guys get this stuff? chad was blamed for the Cle game and a few other L's last year. he stunk in a bunch of games last year, it does happen from time to time but he always bounces back from poor performances which I love.
The NFL is loaded with bad teams that play badly. When you face Baltimore 1 week and Miami the next week teams bounce back. That is a function of the drop in competition as much as it is the players ability to bounce back. Chad's record against very good teams doesn't show an ability to bounce back it shows the same thing over and over. 3 OC's the same dink and dunk and losses against the better teams.
Last year he played poorly at Buf then bounced back late and played well the following week against the SB Champs, he played poorly at jax then played well against Miami's D, he played poorly at Cle then well at NE, poorly against Buf then well at minny. He bounced back against some bad teams and some good teams.
He didn't exactly play well against NE. He played pretty poorly and threw what should have been a game lossing INT that Hobbes misplayed and Cotch made a spectacular play on. 168 and 5.1 per with 1 TD that was off line and 1 INT isn't exactly stellar. He also had 4 absolutely dog games. I can't remeber the last time a Jets team was shut out 2 in the same season and we have had some awful teams.
