Tannenbaum needs to answer for the way he has built this team since taking over the reins. He hasn't brought in the right personnel to run the 3-4. He hasn't addreesed the OL since the o6'draft. Last year both lines were terrible and yet he skates. Herm was put on the hot seat and rightfully so. It's time for Tannenbaum to feel some heat from the fans. Woody are you seeing what we see?
Agreed. His idea of addressing the OL was giving kendall a new address, blowing smoke up everyone's ass this week about bender, who was inactive for the game, and bringing in Clarke, who while he looks the part, also looked lost out there yesterday. Great effing job tangenious--- NOT!
Jeez, relax. It's a team that's far away from a SB. Always were. Last year was a strength of schedule delight. They'll win some games this year, but they just aren't ready to compete for the VLT
Wait so he has ignored the OL since he spent TWO first round picks in LAST years draft? Not to mention 1 of his 4 draft picks from this years draft was on an OLineman. This team is a work in progress in year 2 of the rebuilding job. It is not going to happen overnight.
The OL is weaker now than it was last year. The two starters on the right side are Jags, the center is very good, the LT is overrated and will not be a dominant LT, and the LG is weaker than it was last year. Their OL pick this year was not even active yesterday. Not a good job at all.
Mangold will no doubt improve from last year. The right side of the line is the same. LT is better than last year.
Blame game already after one loss to arguably the best team in football? How about this fact – another year, another opening day, another coach and another COMPLETELY unprepared, totally outcoached team. Mangini gets a pass on this because he’s a genius?
I would agree that tanny and Mangini needs to answer to their offseason...I just wouldnt even start with the offensive line. This regime better get its shit together and understand that you need impact players. You dont need to throw shit up against the wall to see what sticks..because most of the time it doesnt..and what does stick never stays. They brought in a total of 75 former defensive ends hoping one...ONE would do the job. Thats not how championships are built. They have a defensive end in Ellis and a DT in Robertson that are holdovers from the 4-3 defense. What do they do? They try out the left end position to anyone with a damn pulse. THAT IS MISTAKE NUMBER 1. After one full season of watching teams run on us, they bring back the exact same 4 linebackers. They draft one (who will be a starter by week 4) but do not bother to go after more speed at the position...and stick with a guy in the middle named Vilma that will never be a star...and hopefully will be just good. Mistake number 2. They are in a conference with that PATRIOTS, COLTS and CHARGERS to name just a few. This team will never get to the promise land with those teams and their overall talent...ESPECIALLY AT QB. This front office has decided to reinvent the game of football by having a QB that puts zero fear into a defense and all but shutsdown your running game and makes playaction a joke to even try because of his complete lack of physical skills downfield. Is the offensive line playing poorly? YES. With a QB that allows teams to put 8 in the box...it looks much worse then it really is. The bottom line is this. Lets stop the circle jerk of maybe..just maybe this team can get through the teams listed above. We all bought into the 4 year plan when they came aboard right? Lets give this kid a chance at QB because the bottom line is that we are not going anywhere at this time. Is Clemens the answer? He could be pumping gas in a few years for all I know. At least you get your answers now...so that when those above teams start to falter in a couple years....you have a QB ready to compete at a true NFL level. Lets stop fooling ourselves..this team isnt even close. Its getting better with youth...but not even close. So why bother with a QB that cant stretch a field in 2007 like his arm will be any stronger in 2009 when we have a chance. If anyone truly believes that Mangini or Tannenbaum believe Chad is the QB to lead this team to a superbowl, you have to be kidding me. They are waiting for the right time this year to make the change. Making sure the offensive line will not get the kid hurt. The line will eventually find its stride and become at least average..and at that time they will make that change.
The reason wasn't really because we were outcoached thats why, to me it was clear as day that New England is just that much better than us talentwise
Tannebaum dropped the ball this off season. Before last year's, we all had our eyes on the flashy rookies, Bush, Cutler--so when the Jets GM decided to go OL with the 1st two picks, we may have been initially disappointed but, we accepted it as a necessary evil-- WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FOUNDATION-LAYING WOULD CONTINUE THIS YEAR. IT DID NOT. Except for the selection of Bender--the foundationwent backwards with the assinine dismissal of Kendall and no comparable replacement in sight.
Your totally right....talent wise we can't contend wit the Pats period, also we still have personnel issues on defense....obviously
Yeah that was one year ago. So if we had a beast Guard we would have no Harris(3-4 personnel guy) or Revis and you would still complain about he hasnt addressed the secondary. We had a horrible roster 2 years ago, this "process" was going to take more then 2 yrs whether you wanted it to or not You want to put him on the hot seat after adding in two years? GET REAL. Your mad we didnt take a o-linemen in two consecutive years in rd 1? The Pats dont even do that. Nobody takes 3 linemen in the first 2 rounds w/in 2 yrs
Did you all expect the Jets to pull great players out of their ass in 2 years? If you look back at how long it took for the Pats, it was far longer than 2 years. It started with the arrival of Parcells, and when Mo dropped Bledsomuch, TB became the catalyst for all the pieces to fall into place. Game 1 people.....game 1. Nobody knows the real reason they let Kendall go. And if he was here, I highly doubt the outcome would have been different. Did anyone notice the size difference? Those guys are F'in huge. It's just typical Jet Fan (term used loosely) BS to whine after a single game.
Nah I still see the reasoning for picking up Revis, we are a blitzing team on defense improving th secondary allows us to blitz on a consistant basis, unfortunately much like last year in the playoffs we were incapable of getting pressure no matter how much we blitzed, and there wasn't much to draft on oline in last year's draft so I see why we did this, as for Kendall he wouldn't have done much better than Clarke yesterday
The Jets lines were in decay before Mangini got here. You can't fix it in 2 off seasons. This team is a project like most NFL teams. Elite teams are built they don't happen by magic.
Most experts think the Jets had a good offseason. Now, I believe that the FO made a major blunder in the handling of the Kendall issue, and it's going to cost the team. Had they fully understood and reacted properly to the issue, the Jets would have traded the guy in the offseason and replaced him - not made him practice and bitch and wait. I don't support Kendall, but when a guys is like that, get rid of him as fast as you can and replace him. The Jets did not...mistake I also think the Jets have continued to bank on Robertson and that is a mistake. The biggest problem on defense is the NT spot. It effects everything, the ability to stop the run - the ability to get the outside guys free to rush the passer, etc. The Jets have not properly addressed this issue since Tangini took over. That said, I still believe the club is on the right track. Handle these two issues and it's a completely different story...
Chad played well yesterday, I am not even understanding all the hate on Chad, we could talk all we want about Chad whether he can take us to the SB, but the team as a whole isn't ready for the SB so there is no point in continuing to bring back that point. Even Peyton Manning took years before he could get to a SB, and Marino never won one. You could scream QB till you are blue to the face but without the team talent wise ready to compete, no QB can win a SB.
I am beginning to think it isn't just the NT but the entire dline needs to be revamped, getting dominated like that doesn't happen by just one person, and as for Kendall situation, we had these problems with Kendall last year, he isn't a long term solution anyway
