The knock on Brick Ferguson coming out of college was that he didn't have "a mean streak," competetitive fire, or whatever... Those people were right. They also failed to notice that he sucks. He gets beat on the first move time after time. It's not even his lack of strength. He is supposed to have quick feet, fluidity, athleticism?? Opposing DE's go past him like he's a turnstyle.
D'Bust was a waste of a #4 overall pick, period. I've hated that pick the day it was made and was against it in the entire 05 offseason leading up to the draft, and to this day I'm still pissed about that pick.
I agree, I think it speaks volumes that lomas Brown was brought in on two separate occasions to help with Brick.
I saw him lock down his side on some passes but I also saw him get burned by blitzing LBs....against the run he was nonexistant.
Since the Skins have a cumulative record of 27-38 since the whole "Jetskins" thing started, that strikes me as damning with faint praise.
How do Jetskins regularly save you again and again? Was Randy Thomas worth the 30 million dollars you gave him? Is he even still in the NFL? Was Coles worth a first round pick? John Hall and Chad Morton sure were awesome for you guys. Come on man, stop being an idiot.
Funny I remember thinking the same thing. He definitely did not look too psyched to be a Jet. Maybe growing up so close to Hofstra he was painfully aware of this team's history. I'll admit that I bought into this kid's hype and so far he has shown very little to justify any of it.
I thought he was overrated in college, having watched enough ACC games to know he wasnt as dominant as people said he was. It was not a tangenious pick.
People need to stop defending him, he was drafted damn high and paid a lot of money to be below average. Another wonderful draft decision in Jets history, if you can point to two things that has kept the Jets in the bottom of the NFL it has been draft picks and letting good players go. Last night I was watching the Dallas game, Jason Ferguson and Kareem Mckenzie both very good players, still playing well, both former Jets. List goes on and on.
Before people get on the regime for the Dewayne pick, the Ferguson pick, which I hated then, looks worse everytime this guy gets on the field. HOWEVER, it is possible the guard was supposed to help out on the backside on the play that got Chad hurt.
I didn't want the JETS to draft him in the first place but he was the quote on quote safe pick by Eric Mangini to start his regime with. And in year two, he still has the same questions marks that everyone thought he could and would answer by now but let's face it, he's NO BODYGUARD!
Not ALL....... Thunbderbird Jet and a few other nailed it and I was on that bandwagon - The wagon that said he was a project and that the draft was loaded with other OL..... What happens when you have a draft so loaded with OL talent is that it affords you to use the highest pick to go after another position or traded down and get more picks..... Ngata was one, any of the QB's would have done and the OL could have been built just as well or better later on and with this years draft. At the time my feeling was UGGGHHHH I don't want Brick but, I understand how taking the local good guy is hard to pass up and is the "Safe" pick.... Well, it doesn't even look too "Safe" now.
That's a stupid comment. Brick was the best player to pick for this team when we picked him, especially based on past performance and scouting reports. If you understand the position, you'll realise that he is a hell of a lot better than you think, but is not where he needs to be yet.
Well, luckily for some of us, the messages BEFORE the draft are still readily available...... It's not hindsight if some of us called this out before the drafts.....
The day of the draft 80% of the people wanted us to take Brick. At the time, I warned many of you that he was 2 years away from being a good OT in the Nfl and that he'd never be a great run blocker. Here we are a year later...and it looks to be pretty dead on. He had a good first half yesterday. Was again, our best lineman. Things fell apart all around in the second half. There will be growing pains w/ brick and Mangold..anyone who cant comprehend that, doesn't understand player development in the NFL.
Kurt, as a guy that knows O-line, did you see the one play when Colvin blitzed form the outside so Brick left Jarvis Green to take Colvin and I think Clarke was supposed to take Green, but both green and Colvin got in on the sack? Might have been the one where Chad got hurt...anyways, can this at all be attributed to brick's fear of focusing completely on the blitzing LB because he didn't think the LG would be able to handle Green? Or, did they both jsut get burned?
That was his one bad play in the 1st half. That was a miscommunication more than anything else. That's a result of 2 very young OL playing side by side who havent played together for very long.
Again, I remember TB Jet laying it out on the line and I agreed...... I'd like to revisit some of those discussions later on. But, once it came time to draft I think a lot of us just swallowed hard - Put faith in the Staff to know more than us and saw the logic in picking the local hometown "Good Guy"....... It wasn't a pick to SCREAM About at the time - But, it was a real tough situation in a real good draft with lots of talent and this guy staring at the Jets at the top of the draft..... It's hard to fault them for the pick but DAMN, it's is certainly not what I would have done.....
Exactly, more than any other unit, how well one player does on the Oline depends on the rest of the line. The best Olinemen in the league are able to play their best because they have a solid line playing with them. If you look at NE, Colts, Ravens, Philly, Seattle, Denver, the teams with the best Olinemen, have solid all around lines that allow the elite OG an OT to play up to their potential. The problem with the Jets Oline is that 3 out of the 5 positions have crappy players. Moore sucks, Clement sucks, Clarke sucks, and Bender is too raw. So you have Brick and Mangold trying to play and cover 5 positions instead of 2. They can't do their jobs because they are worried about covering for everyone else. Brick and Mangold are just trying to survive out there. Like I said the Oline depends on the entire unit, and when 3/5s of the line blows it doesn't work. People who are putting all the blame on Brick and calling him a bust already do not really understand Oline play. Get a couple of decent OGs and a RT and see how well he does. If he still sucks it up then, then you can call him a "bust."
