Yankees/Orioles...7/27-7/29

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  1. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    He would be dirt cheap? Didn't he sign a fairly sizable deal?
     
  2. MSUJet85

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    For the Yankees it is sizable because of the posting fee, but considering the market for a team doing a gamble, it may be worth it
     
  3. plasticsloth

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    please trade igawa. He is a piece of crap and the yanks should take anythign they can get for him. His spot in the starting rotation is gone anyways when hughes and karstens come back
     
  4. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    To somebody picking him up, he comes at 4 million a year for 5 years. Where can anybody get a starting pitcher for 4 million dollars these days?
     
  5. Cakes

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    Well, even if they can get a bag of balls for him it would be good.
     
  6. AlioTheFool

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    Time to start saying goodbye now boys. This season is shot.

    I really want Damon out of here. As much as other guys piss me off, he drives me absolutely insane. Twice he killed rallies tonight. What good is a DH that bats leadoff, and goes 0-4?

    Our pen just sucks. Except Viz and Mo, we have no one to pitch after the starters.

    Something that's bothering me too. They were saying that Roger doesn't get enough support, since he's getting the least runs per start of any starter on the team. Well, he's getting 4.1/game. If he's getting 4 runs a game, then what is the issue? His ERA isn't 4+, and even if it was, he'd have no excuse to complain. It's the pen that's killing him, not the lineup.

    Anyway, this is all idle chatter. The hole was too big, and we can't dig out of it. I'm just watching to see how many Alex hits at this point. At least it's time for football.
     
  7. Catch4Cotch

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  8. Cakes

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    Been watchin' any baseball this year? The "Bravos" will not be passing the Mets in the standings.
     
  9. Pride

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    Wigginton was traded for Dan Wheeler
     
  10. Cakes

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    That strikes me as quite an odd trade.
     
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    Rotoworld is also reporting the Yanks n Rangers r discussing a deal for Gagne and a deal which would have sent Dye to the Red Sox fell through
     
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    giambi went 1/5 for the night playing for the class A miracle
     
  13. nyjunc

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    The bats are disappearing again and we are losing again. Last night it was too late before they got it going, we cannot afford a long slump.
     
  14. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Yeah, how can the entire team go from so good to so bad overnight? It's not the Oriole's pitching either. One thing I really didn't like was that last KC game being played at night. They didn't get into their hotel until 5 AM Friday morning.
     
  15. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    The division is lost but I'm not quite ready to throw in the towel yet for the WC. We still have 3 games left with Cleveland and Seattle. Hopefully we get hot again when we need to.

    I hope Damon, Farnsworth and Igawa are all gone. Maybe Proctor too. Help is on the way.

    "In the past four starts by Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain, Jeff Karstens and Ian Kennedy, the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre rotation has allowed just one earned run in 29 innings, while striking out 33."
     
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    I'd love to still have faith, but this team has now proven that they are really as inconsistent as we've seen earlier this year.

    Damon is a problem. And him getting so much playing time is thanks to the organization demanding he keep playing even when everyone, including himself, knew he should be on the DL. The Yankees "needed him"? Wrong.

    Farnsworth, Proctor, Bruney, Villone, Myers. Those are all names I don't want hear coming out of the pen next year. I'm done being patient with guys. They are all wildly inconsistent. (Bruney is the reason we lost last night. If not for those two runs in the bottom of the 8th, we were tied in the ninth, with Mo coming out to pitch.)

    Matsui's poor fielding bit us again last night too. Nice job by Hideki to misplay, then not dive for a ball he should have caught.

    As long as I'm talking about poor fielding, I may as well mention Cano's lack of ability to properly defend against a steal. A lazy catch attempt allowed a stolen base, when the runner should have been out by about a half a foot. I won't even talk about the situation where the entire infield was asleep and allowed someone to steal without even a pitch being thrown. Off a lefty, no less.

    As much as I am against Giambi being a major league ballplayer at this point, we could use him back in the lineup. As long as it replaces Damon altogether. But in reality, I'd much rather Matsui were the DH, and Damon and Giambi both forgotten. Promote someone to play left field.

    Abreu is every bit the shitpile he showed himself to be earlier. When he goes cold, he goes stone cold. And he's back to making right field balls look more exciting than they should be.

    Here's my list of guys I want to see return next year:

    Jeter
    ARod
    Posada
    Rivera
    Cabrera
    Phillips
    Vizcaino
    Matsui (but only as a DH)
    Wang
    Pettitte
    Clemens (if he returns at all)

    Beyond that list, everyone else can be traded/released whatever. Next year may have to be a rebuild year. Then again, there's no way the Yankees would ever pull such a firesale and "lose face." I just can't see us returning to the postseason with this team as-is. Granted, we have some nice pitching help getting ready to make the jump, but our problem isn't the rotation, and the pen can probably be fixed with two solid arms to pitch middle relief. What the Yankees don't have is a consistently hitting lineup, and a porous defense. That's going to take work to fix.
     
  17. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I would agree except there is no way we can get rid of Giambi..we've obviously tried to void his contract and can't. We would have to pay almost all of his salary to trade him and that would just look foolish. We are better off when he's just on the DL.
     
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  18. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Today's hot rumor is that Chamberlain could be called up as early as Tuesday to be the setup guy. I'm not sure I like the idea as much as we need him. This guy has starter written all over him and unless he takes Rivera spot in the future this will turn out to be our version of Papelbon. Torre claims he won't abuse him but I'll believe that when I see it. He is, after all, only in his first year of ball.
     
  19. AlioTheFool

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    Ummm, more than this kid still being green, what about Viz? Has he still not proven his worth yet? WTF does he have to do?

    This team, top to bottom, is run by overreactive idiots. I'm allowed to overreact every day. Nothing I say actually matters.
     
  20. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I think the plan would be to use Viz in the 6th and 7th where we are pathetic and Chamberlain in the 8th. Not a knock on Viz but more of a need for somebody who can pitch longer in middle relief.
     

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