I don't understand it...

ramsey isnt gonna stop the jets from drafting a qb... he has 1 yr left on his deal thats enough to bridge the gap for a rookie qb can learn.

 

Correct. If anything, the Patrick Ramsey pickup will make alot of teams think they aren't drafting a QB....

 

Ramsey IS a good quarterback, he needs to find a system that works for him tho.

And that's all beside the fact. He's not gonna our QB of the future, he's a cheap backup on a short contract. I think of it like a contract trade. You always see these in the NBA, where Team A trades Team B a young stud with a long contract for an older player who has a shot term contract that pays big in the current but frees up alot of space one the contract is up.

 

i agree

JETS need an impact player, best scenario for us is as follows.

Trade Abraham for Schaub and this years 2nd round.
Trade our 4th pick for a middle round 1st and 2nd. Even though we traded two first round picks for a 4th pick to get D-ROB, absolutley total crapola and #@#$.

At that point we have 1 first round and 3 2nd round picks.

We can then use our 1st round to draft a RB or LB and use our 2nd round picks to draft OL.

With this being the case if they draft smartly, we should be back in contention in 2007-2008.

 

we are already on the verge of haing 5 picks on day 1 alone. it isnt neccasaery to traade the #4 pick. why not just take a top 5 prospect

 

I personally don't think that having a big-time QB is necessary to win. The Jets have the foundation of a great defense - the better and more realistic plan is to build the team as a defense/running game team, with a QB that just manages the game.
Both Penny and Ramsey have the ability to be the low mistakes/ball control QB you need in that type of system.
We're not getting Shaub from the Falcons - try to get the 1st rounder and use the draft to beef up the defense and the OL.

 

Lmao Ramsey is a interception throwing machine

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YEAR	TEAM 	G 	CMP 	ATT 	PCT 	YDS 	AVG 	[B]TD [/B]	LNG 	[B]INT[/B] 
Career 	 WAS    34 	480 	  861    55.7 	  5649 	  6.6 	   [B]34[/B]       72       [B]29[/B]

 

Please, people, just STOP WITH THIS!! The OL is THE most important unit on the team. It is not open for debate, as it is a fact. In order to build a team, you start with the OL, and work from there. Taking a talented OL is NEVER, EVER wrong. If you think it is, then you need to take a step back and look at how much you really understand this game.

 

I agree with you, but are you insinuating we have to use all of our picks on the oline?

It is ok if Jets fans want a QB at #4...Because most of us realize their are 6 other rounds after #1...

 

I understand that winning and losing is all about line play, on both sides of the ball. Very few, if any on this board would dispute that. What people don't agree on is how to get there. I personally think Ferguson is over rated, so I would not like to see him picked at 4.... is he the best O lineman in the draft? I think he is, but I don't think the drop off from Ferguson to the other O linemen in this draft is as big as others think it is.

On the other hand, I think we need a franchise QB to develop, and they take at least a year of clipboard carrying almost all the time before they are ready to take a team on a playoff run. I also think the drop off from Hawk, Mario Williams, and V Davis to the next best player at their respective positions is much greater than the difference between Ferguson and the other O linemen in this draft.

If I really thought Ferguson was the next Pace or Ogden, I'd have no probelm with it. Since 2000, only one offensive lineman taken in the top ten has made the pro bowl... Chris Samuels, once.

So, in the end I just think Ferguson at 4 is a reach. I have him around 8-9 overall in this draft.

 

now thats a good point.

 

No way

are we going to draft a QB now. I would have prefered Leinert or Cutler to Ramsey, but obviously the FO didn't agree. I think we're looking at D'brick or Hawk, at this point.

 

No, I'm not insinuating anything of the sort. What I am saying is that too many posters treat the OL the same way that Bradway did, whish is to say that "servicable, solid" OL are enough, and they can be found on the garbage heap. This is not true in the least. A franchise LT is much an impact player as any other position.

As for wanting a QB at #4, I personally do not. Cutler is not worthy of a #4 overall pick, IMO, and besides that, I think there are other positions that can be filled there. I would prefer to see either Ferguson, Williams, or Hawk selected there, or better yet, I'd like the team to trade down and get an extra second round pick.

One other thing I have noticed with this draft: almost everyone has fallen in love with one particular player in the draft, which is draft sin #1. This is a loaded draft, which presents a lot possible moves, and all of them good. There will be many disappointed Jets fans come draft day.

 

at this point saying draft cutler @4 is not worthy is crazy.. theres a high chance he wont even be on the board at #4. he has up his stock to the 2nd best qb in this draft.

 

I disagree with your evaluation of Ferguson, but that is a seperate issue. I wasn't saying he should be the pick there, as there are other players that I would be ahppy with as well. What gets me is the way a lot of people think the OL is just a bunch of scrubs you can hire off of beer trucks and construction sites. It simply isn't true. It isn't the sexy pick that sells jerseys, and I relly beleive that is what makes people feel the way they do. I know not everyone is as hardcore as a lot of us, but it's frustrting none the less.

 

Other people overrating him doesn't mean he's worthy of being picked there.

 

I could not have said it any better myself. If you are going to rebuild the O-Line there is no better place to start than a franchise LT, which I believe Brick is.

As for no top 10 drafted O-Lineman making the pro-bowl, that is irrelevent. A team will be taking Brick in the top 5-7 spots. If the Jets are targeting him, which I have a gut feeling they are and all this Cutler stuff is a smoke screen, they have to take him where they know they will get him. It is a big risk to wait and hope he drops.

Of course this all based on if you think he is a franchise LT or not. Which I do, so I want the FO to take him.

 

....you're right on, the big uglies don't get nearly the amount of credit they deserve by the average fan, but the coaches and knowledgable fans know what you're saying......piggybacking on that; having good defensive lineman make LB's & the secondary look a lot better than they may be....

 

i just noticed that they has been no talk of how ramsey will fit in with the new OC. or did i miss something?