For me it's a toss up between Mangold and Rhodes. I probably lean toward Rhodes a little because I think he is a player that has to be game planed for.
Kerry Rhodes, get's my vote, he has just scratched the surface of his potential.....he's going to be a consistent Pro-Bowl player.
This is weird with the way u asked it. The most valuable player to the jets no question is pennington. When he plays the jets do well. However, with the way u asked it (if u had a team and could pick one player from the jets) it would be rhodes because he makes such an impact.
Just to clarify, I really meant most valuable player, as in if you were thinking just in terms of value who would you start a franchise with?
As much as I love Rhodes and Mangold, neither play truly impact positions(although one could make an arguement for both spots)... I'd go in this order(and i'm sure i'll take some heat for my take)... 1. Vilma- Say what you will about how he fits in the 3-4, but we're talking about a fast, speedy linebacker capable of 120+ takcles a year, and top notch leadership/intangibles.I've also mentioned before w/ very little acknowledgement that he maybe the best coverage linebackerin the entire league, which allows a DC alot more freedom.. 2. Cotchery- May not be an impact player YET, but he is well on his way to being one. He's also still young and has a great attitude/work ethic 3. Ferguson- Another player who has not reached his potential(is a long ways away) but anytime you can add a guy w/ his type of athleticism, long arms, pass protection skills and intangibles for blindside duty, you don't hesitate. 4. Robertson- Has really gotten a bad rap mainly for where he was drafted, but D rob is one of the more disruptive(not to be mistaken w/ playmaking) interior linemen in the NFL. He clearly gives O-linemen fits, and is fantastic at collapsing the pocket. He's also still very young. The only question w/ him is his knee condition.. 5. Rhodes- May be the most athletically gifted safety in the NFL. His combo of size, speed and agility is extremely rare. You add in his improving awareness and wow. he'd most likely be # 1 on this list if not for playing a position that doesn't offer as much of an impact as some other listed spots.
It would have to be Mangold. If there was a great QB listed it would be him. Those positions you would expect to last for 10 years or more. The others rarely do.
As some before me mentioned...especially if you got a 4-3 team Vilma would be the first one picked. As for being most valuable...I'd have to say Pennington. The mix of both for me is Rhodes. Although Mangold is a close second for me.
Oh, then that's different. I had said Mangold as who I would take first. For MVP I would probably pick Rhodes too. Hell, he's the only player we had that should have made the pro bowl even if he didn't. Of course if we didn't run so many safety blitzes last year would we even be discussing him in this?
Kind of difficult to name one player to start with 22 positions to fill. If I had a gun to my head, it would come down to Rhodes and Mangold. I am of the opinion that Mangold will be a future All-Pro as will Rhodes. I think you win Football games in the trenches and as such I would take Mangold but not without a lot of self doubt.
I picked Mangold because he's young and good and plays a position that is absolutely essential to a dynasty's success. I think on pure talent I would go with Rhodes as so many others did, it's just a lot easier to find a great safety than a great center.
It has to be Chad Pennington. Without Rhodes the Jets have a decent defense still. Without Coles or Cotchery they lose a recieving threat but are still okay. Without Mangold they lose a solid Center which will hurt the line, but managable. Without Pennington they lose their leader. The Captain of the offense. The Signal caller. The heartbeat of the team.
I was thinking the same thing. In terms of trade value Rhodes, Vilma, Cotch, Mangold. In terms of winning games Pennington.
i would agree that pennington is the mvp of the team(i voted b4 reading the thread too), but after reading the actual question...where pennington wouldnt have the same value ...i probably wouldnt take a single player from our team to "build on" better value elsewhere
