2006 Draft Analysis....a year later

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  1. Scikotic

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    http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/review/teams/newyorkjets.html

    any thoughts now? i figure this analysis is pretty decent, however the grade on the draft is wayyyyy off! couldnt be less then a A-, and thats even pushing it
     
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    B+ because the third round picks ARE reaches. Whether they pan out or not, neither presented value.

    The ultimate graade depends on whether or not Clemens becomes a starter. Or starting caliber.
     
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    Smith and Smith, Leon should make up for the 3rd round talent that has appeared to be absent...i say A
     
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    Am I wrong or was this analysis based on the draft itself and not rating the performance of the rookies for the 2006 season?
     
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    D'Brick: B
    Mangold: A
    Clemens: Inc
    Schlegel: D
    ESmith: C
    BSmith: B
    Washington: A-
    Pocsiask: Inc
    Coleman: C+
    Adams: F

    19/8 = 2.375 or C+. Looks to me like Wright nailed it on the head before training camp even began last year.

    Obviously the incompletes on Clemens and Pocsiask have to come in before we know where things stand. And a couple of the guys could raise their grades this year making things look much better.
     
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    the draft itself....its a point proving that the so called experts arent very good at determining a drafts worth, or predicting how good it is before they step on the field...wasnt everyones initially feeling that we had a really good draft last year or was that me?
     
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    I thought we had a pretty good draft at the time. Of course having 4 players (Clemens, Schlegel, Pocsiask and Adams) contribute nothing to the team last year means that the grade is gonna be lower than you'd think.

    The draft could easily move up to B or even B+ next season if Clemens and another guy or two step up their game. It takes 3 years to know where a draft is gonna wind up eventually.
     
  8. WhiteShoeWillis

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    where is this article so far off base?
     
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    Dbrick: A-
    Mangold: A
    Clemens: No grade
    Schlegel: D+
    ESmith: B
    BSmith: A-
    Washington: A
    Pocsiask: No grade
    Coleman: B
    Adams: No Grade

    okay if we are using the gpa scale its a B+, but if you throw out the schlegal pick, its close to an A
     
  10. Ambrose

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    First, Scott Wright's business is predicting the draft. When a team goes against the concensus of opinion -- and btw his -- his evaluation of that teams draft is going to be colored by the fact that the team made him look bad by not picking acording to his book.

    Second, this is the evaluation that he wrote immediatly after last years draft and so takes no account of the contributions of the players this season.

    Third, his evaluation underrates the contributions made by Nick Mangold and particularly by Eric Smith and Leon Washington. Smith was a significant contributor last year and Leon's contributions are well known.

    Fourth, you cant really evaluate the quality of players a team picked after just one season, let alone immediatly after they were drafted.
     
  11. Br4d

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    Wait a second here. What's your definition of "B"? Part-time duty on an NFL roster?

    Why would you give Schlegel a D+ instead of a D? For that little extra effort on the sidelines because he could never get in a game?

    Why would you make Brad Smith an A- despite the fact that he only had 28 touches on offense and 11 tackles on special teams?

    If you give Leon Washington an A does that mean you have to give Curtis Martin a AAA+++ for his rookie season?

    I'm smelling some "No Player Left Behind" grading here...
     
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    Granted we had one of the best drafts in recent past, and was in the top 5 in all drafts last year....I think it deserves a better grade then a C+....dont you think?
     
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    June 1, 2006
    New York Jets '06 Draft Review
     
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    :grin:

    so yeah, its pretty stupid to review a draft RIGHT AFTER the draft. doesnt really make any sense
     
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    I don't know about his grade - it's hard to tell - i don't know how he determines what is an A, B, or C.

    I think we had a very good draft, but I also agree with most of his assessment in that article. A grade letter is such an arbitrary thing without a solid definition behind it. What does C+ mean?
     
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    No, he graded a lot of teams high and the Jets accurately. The Jets may well have had a top 10 draft last season but that doesn't mean it was better than a C+ draft. Like school if you grade on curves you miss the real picture.

    The Jets got two full starters out of the draft in their two first round picks. They got one other half starter in Washington. Everybody else was a situational player, special teamer, injury case or just didn't play well enough to make any real impact.

    I didn't think the Saints draft was all that good last year but they got 3 starters (Colston, Evans and Harper) out of it and an amazing half starter in Bush. Clearly the Saints had a better draft than the Jets looking from the perspective of one season out. He graded them a C+ after the draft also, and I'd have argued at the time that the Jets had a better draft, but they didn't.

    He gave the Redskins a C+ and they only drafted once before the 5th round, wtf was he smoking?
     
  18. WW85

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    I think as fans we expect too much from our draft choices right away and expect them to make an immediate impact, which is unrealistic. Very few draft choices make immediate impacts. We were very lucky to get 2 starters who played well, especially Mangold, in Rd 1. Brad Smith, Leon Washington & Eric Smith made some good contributions. The rest.... the Jury is still out.
     
  19. Footballgod214

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    10 years ago, the draft would have gone like this:

    "With their 1st choice in the draft, the 4th selection overall, the New York Jets select Ohio St. inside linebacker Anthony Schlegel"

    You know it's true, now smile.
     
  20. gustoonarmy

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    I would rate him as #1 now , not to take anything away from Brick but Mangold was just amazing , to come in and start as a rookie in that position is one thing but to also make the oline audibles as well is very special.
     

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