Peter Kings take on Adlius (you will be annoyed)

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  1. jetsman22

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    One guy might have been underpaid in Lunatic 2007 Market Dollars: Adalius Thomas. He signed with New England for five years and $35.00 million.

    The breakdown, according to Management Council documents obtained Sunday night:

    • Signing bonus: $12 million in 2007.

    • Option bonus: $8 million payable in 2008, applied for cap reasons in equal $2 million increments in 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011.

    • Salaries: $900,000 in '07, $900,000 in '08, $1.9 million in '09, $4.9 million in '10 and $5.9 million in '11.

    • Workout bonuses: $107,000 annually if he participates in the Patriots' offseason workout program in Foxboro.

    • Cap numbers: In succession, beginning this year, $3.4 million, $5.4 million, $6.4 million, $9.4 million, $10.4 million.

    I say "might have been underpaid" because there is always a danger that a unique, great player in one system might not translate to that kind of player in another system. But I'll go on record saying this is a tremendous signing -- for both sides, not just the Patriots. Thomas gets what he wants, staying in the Eastern Time Zone (he did not want to move to California), playing with an annual contender, working under a coach who obviously is an imaginative defensive strategist and playing for a team that isn't a sideshow.

    The Patriots get what they want, signing a versatile 29-year-old linebacker (mostly) to buttress a rapidly aging unit, adding a perfect locker-room influence, and leaving








    This is meant to be looked at for some intelligent conversation. If you are a homer do not post.
     
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  2. illmatic

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    Doesn't annoy me, P. King is Billy B's writer who happens to be on SI
     
  3. namath4ever

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    King is hardly credible, he is a Patsies homer and in BB's back pocket. If he ever criticized them, now THAT would be news.
     
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    They're "getting younger" at LB by signing a 30-when-the-season-starts player? Nice.
     
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    Typical King, whatever the Patsies do is great and he will spin it to make it look that way.
     
  6. jetsman22

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    They have two first round draft picks. Say they draft a Patrick Willis, and groom him behind Thomas for the next four years? Teddy Brewski is almost 35. Wilfork is 26, Warren is 26, Seymour is 28 and Thomas is 29.
     
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    The entire nfl is saying the same thing King is. Any true football fan can see how this was a great pick up for them. Brewski is 35 years old, btw.
     
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    guys - i am already annoyed at the signing.....

    IMO - the pats just put the finishing touches on a top 3 defense in 07.

    makes it all the more important the jets build an offense AROUND their QB

    jil
     
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    Your posts all seem to have a Patriots focus. I wonder why that would be?
     
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    Is it a good signing, in theory it is and there's no disputing that. But @ the same time the season isn't won in the first day of FA and more importantly the FA period and draft are far from over. I hate to use this anology, but it looks like the Jets are trying to out patriot the patriots by going for quality at below market or at market cost - I could be very wrong and we could be getting caught with our pants around our ankles but all we can do is wait and see
     
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    Sorry about that. I am just trying to be honest with everyone. Give everyone the facts on the deals and such. Some claims have the pats paying Thomas 400 million over 2 years etc etc. If the jets make some moves I will try to be the same way. I do not hate the patriots as much as some on here, you are correct. I am a fan of the game really. I love the jets.
     
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    How can a 30yr old LB make their team a top 3 defense, did you watch the AFC title game? You think Thomas can make THAT much of a difference? I'd have to see that to believe it.
     
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    A guy that can play 5 defensive positions? A guy with 12 sacks last year. Behind the best front three in football. Allowing Vrabel to play where he is most effective. Suring up there biggest defensive weaknees, and allowing for defensive flexibilty never seen before, by one of the best defensive coaches ever? Allowing Colvin to rush the qb like he is meant to? Thomas is 29 at the moment. Brewski is 35 years old , this is a big improvement.
     
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    Oh ok, they're "getting younger" with a 30 year old LB compared to a 35 eyar old. Got it.
     
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    Thomas is 29. When he turns 30, call him 30. Tha patriots got Thomas for 7 million per year(average), when he could have gotten 9+ in SF. The patriots front three is 26, 26, and 28. They are also the best front three in the NFL. The pats biggest weakness was the lb position. Brewski is 35 years old, Thomas is 29. Brewski is slow, and cannot play 5 defensive positions. Thomas allows Vrabel to play where is he most effective. Same goes for Colvin. Thomas can can play 5 defensive positions the 3/4 and the 4/3. The guy had 12 sacks last year. Lets say the patriots take one of there first round picks and draft a patrick willis. You have A thomas in his prime for the next 3 years and then a kid groomed behind that monster to step in. Look at his stats, he is on the rise, not the decline. A guy like Porter, has been on the decline for years.

    Did you see the Thomas's numbers against the cap??? They are miniscule! Not like the pats didnt have almost 30 mill to spend anyway. They had a hole to fill, and they did it with the best possible option. Which happens to be a very smart move. Everyone in the nfl is calling this a awesome pickup, except the pats rivals.

    Not like anyone would admit it tho.
     
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    C'mon fellas its a great signing for the Pats. If they got him to sign that contract, he should sue his agent.
     
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    Those numbers are legit.
     
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    The numbers may be legit, but you mislead by saying $7mil average. My understanding is that he gets approximately $20 - $22 mil guaranteed in the first 2 years. That's an average of $10.5 mil. for those two years The benefit for the Pats comes if he plays for 5 years at a high level. Agree it's a good signing, but I feel his status is a bit exaggerated because it is a weak FA class. We shall see...
     
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    One guy might have been underpaid in Lunatic 2007 Market Dollars: Adalius Thomas. He signed with New England for five years and $35.00 million.

    The breakdown, according to Management Council documents obtained Sunday night:

    ? Signing bonus: $12 million in 2007.

    ? Option bonus: $8 million payable in 2008, applied for cap reasons in equal $2 million increments in 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011.

    ? Salaries: $900,000 in '07, $900,000 in '08, $1.9 million in '09, $4.9 million in '10 and $5.9 million in '11.

    ? Workout bonuses: $107,000 annually if he participates in the Patriots' offseason workout program in Foxboro.

    ? Cap numbers: In succession, beginning this year, $3.4 million, $5.4 million, $6.4 million, $9.4 million, $10.4 million.
     
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    This is a 3 year deal tops, unless he restructures. He'll never see those salary figures in years 4 and 5.
     

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